Posted on 06/13/2010 12:16:24 PM PDT by markomalley
.- Thousands of pilgrims and faithful gathered at noon Sunday in St. Peter’s Square to pray the Angelus with the Holy Father. Before the prayer, he said that the fruits of the recently ended Year for Priests could never be measured, but are already visible and will continue to be ever more so.
“The priest is a gift from the heart of Christ, a gift for the Church and for the world. From the heart of the Son of God, overflowing with love, all the goods of the Church spring forth,” proclaimed Pope Benedict XVI. “One of those goods is the vocations of those men who, conquered by the Lord Jesus, leave everything behind to dedicate themselves completely to the Christian community, following the example of the Good Shepherd.”
The Holy Father described the priest as having been formed by “the same charity of Christ, that love which compelled him to give his life for his friends and to forgive his enemies.”
“Therefore,” he continued, “priests are the primary builders of the civilization of love.”
Benedict XVI exhorted priests to always seek the intercession of St. John Marie Vianney, whose prayer, the “Act of Love,” was prayed frequently during the Year for Priests, and “continues to fuel our dialogue with God.”
The pontiff also spoke about the close of the Year for Priests, which took place this past week and culminated with the Solemnity of the Sacred Heart of Jesus. He emphasized “the unforgettable days in the presence of more than 15,000 priests from around the world.”
The feast of the Sacred Heart is traditionally a “day of priestly holiness,” but this time it was especially so, Benedict XVI remarked.
Pope Benedict concluded his comments by noting that, in contemplating history, “one observes so many pages of authentic social and spiritual renewal which have been written by the decisive contribution of Catholic priests.” These were inspired “only by their passion for the Gospel and for mankind, for his true civil and religious freedom.”
“So many initiatives that promote the entire human being have begun with the intuition of a priestly heart,” he exclaimed.
The Pope then prayed the Angelus, greeted those present in various languages, and imparted his apostolic blessing.
Does the church not teach that the sacraments give grace? So then a decision to go to communion is one that earns grace
Let us dissect that statement.
Marble palaces: LDS, CofE, Jim Bakker, Jimmy Swaggart, Ted Haggard, the Crystal Cathedral (been there), and so on. Silk vestment: every big hair preacher has silk suits. Canard. Which Catholic clergy has silk vestments?
Which Catholic has a golden crown? Oh yeah. The Monarch of England. Ooops, that's a Reformed position.
Staffs. Hmm. No shepherd has a staff?
rings worthy to be kissed: let's see if we can count them:
art work: are we real here?
army to defend them: what Pope or Patriarch has an army?
The Reformers had motivations, you bet. Luther wanted luxury and riches. Calvin wanted power and control And the strange mystic Zwingli wanted to be able to play soldier. See how well Zurich did under Zwingli...
If you read the Westminster Confession of Faith, it confirms it. Those who are unfortunate are that way because they are accursed of God, according to the Calvinist. The exalted position that a Calvinist finds himself in is because God smiles upon him and has rewarded him. That is their theology.
Maybe you realized all this previously, but I did not, and I admit that I am stunned to find this out. Thank God I have not been sucked down the drainhole of Calvinism.
The lord of this world created, supported, and sustains to this day the un Christian beliefs of the Reformed.
This may be too much for some to follow.. but the implication that paul was speaking of the scriptures when He spoke of the church holding up the truth was met with the comment by a catholic ..you I believe, that the entire word was not yet written..I pointed out God KNEW his word.. Not all that complicated .. Paul could say that with confidence because He spoke through the Holy Spirit
you want to imply a continuing revelation through the pope You have no idea what I want. A comment like that is making it personal.
Fair enough, I often use "you" in a general sense.. .so I will say that the catholic church believes in a continuing revelation that is no where hinted at in scripture,
Could you show us the official vatican commentary on this scripture? (for comparison purposes??)
Calvinists may consider a commentary by A. R. FAUSSET to be Scripture but I'm sure the "Vatican" does not.
Actually we do not have an "official" commentary.but we do not claim that men are unable to properly interpret scripture themselves.. as does the catholic church.. so where is that link that catholics have to use for CORRECT catholic interpretation of the bible .the church does have one right? ...Or are all the priests and lay teachers giving TOPIS ???
You also imply Paul could err in the Scriptures which is a bizarre statement for a "Christian" to make. The Scriptures were written by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, and as such, they are infallible in matters of faith and practice.
Unlike priests, popes, churches, doctrines of men and religion forum posts.
Since the historic, orthodox Christian church considers Paul a Trinitarian, it is up to apostates like you to support your opinion that Paul is not Trinitarian.
You have not.
No surprise there.
Mark, what is the GOOD NEWS?
The poor hungry and meek do not represent the God of their wrongly formed mind because of John Calvin, so they think the poor hungry and meek lack the grace of God because they are not like Calvin-who was a devil in disguise.
Certainly. It says that I do not make it all up as I go along.
Why did the spirit of God lead Christ into temptation?
I thought that the article had answered it. However, I might add this:
We cannot overcome satan on our own. It is only with Jesus Christ that we can possibly resist him. Jesus is the example and the beacon that we need to follow.
How did Christ overcome the temptation? Those are the questions on this text..
Jesus is God. satan is a creation. God is not going to give in to one of His creations.
Think about it mark... why does the bible call Jesus the 2nd Adam?
Adam was the first human and led mankind away from God. Jesus is God become human to lead us back to Him.
What did jesus do to silence Satan?
He reminded him that God alone shall be served and worshiped.
go read the text for your self and consider it
From the discourse I have had here on FR, it appears as if I read and consider the Gospels much more than the average anti Catholic.
LOL mark.. LOL... Not one of those men are "reformers"
Look at the vatican Mark.. men prostrate themselves in front of a man. they kiss his ring, the world seeks the approval of the "Vicar of Christ" , he wears gold crowns and has servants and his own army.. That mark is what Satan offered to Christ..
The Reformers had motivations, you bet. Luther wanted luxury and riches.
What makes you think that? He ran for his life with the hords of hell chasing him ... he saw the excesses, the sale of indulgences to build that castle Catholics call the Vatican ...his goal was always to REFORM the sin and error that had entered the church..but the power and pleasures were too much for a pope and his lackeys to give up.. Mark that is why it is called the REFORMATION ..the purpose was to bring the church back to what Christ had intended,,
. Calvin wanted power and control And the strange mystic Zwingli wanted to be able to play soldier. See how well Zurich did under Zwingli...
Calvin did not have to play scholar he was one.. at least he wrote a systematic theology and a commentary which is more than any pope has accomplished..even with is hordes of servants..
There was no implication that St. Paul was speaking of only the Scriptures when he spoke of the Church as the pillar and bulwark of the truth. That's your imagination at work. My comment about the word of God not being written was: the "Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth, whether written or not". If you want to spin that off as me implying that God is not ominiscient, then have fun.
Scripture says the "Church is the pillar and bulwark of the truth". Not the Church is the pillar and bulwark of scripture only.
the catholic church believes in a continuing revelation that is no where hinted at in scripture
You demonstrate once again your lack of knowledge in what the Church believes.
we do not claim that men are unable to properly interpret scripture themselves.. as does the catholic church
You come up short once again on what the Church teaches.
so where is that link that catholics have to use for CORRECT catholic interpretation of the bible
You ask once again, so I'll tell you once again. The Church does not have an official interpretation of each verse of Scripture. Can you understand that?
Or are all the priests and lay teachers giving TOPIS ???
It's funny that you make a comment like that when that is exactly what Protestantism is all about.
In other words, you cannot prove it. Your flailing is only increasing evidence that when it comes down to it, the OPC is a man made construction; a splinter of a splinter of a splinter of a splinter of a group that rejected Christianity.
The OPC is not Christian; it does not hold Christian beliefs except by accident; it cannot abide Christianity and it posts all bizarre manner of beliefs on its official web pages which include an encouragement to believe that your pets will join you in Calvinist heaven.
You also imply Paul could err in the Scriptures which is a bizarre statement for a "Christian" to make. The Scriptures were written by inspiration of the Holy Spirit, and as such, they are infallible in matters of faith and practice.
I never said 'err'. If Paul was human, he could have left out the Trinitarian doctrine, which he did. You have been challenged to prove otherwise, since I showed his non Trinitarian formula.
Since the historic, orthodox Christian church considers Paul a Trinitarian, it is up to apostates like you to support your opinion that Paul is not Trinitarian.
We do not worship Paul. We consider Paul one of the greatest apostles. You say that Paul is Trinitarian. You prove it. Go ahead. Feel free to put your proofs where your mouth is.
Men hate Paul..that is how we know hec was a prophet of God
For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.
Amen, RnMom! I never realized that before, but you are so right.
2 Corinthians 5: 10 For we must all appear 7 before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive recompense, according to what he did in the body, whether good or evil.
How unfortunate.
No.
Romans 2: 5 By your stubbornness and impenitent heart, you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of wrath and revelation of the just judgment of God, 6 who will repay everyone according to his works: 3 7 eternal life to those who seek glory, honor, and immortality through perseverance in good works, 8 but wrath and fury to those who selfishly disobey the truth and obey wickedness. 9 Yes, affliction and distress will come upon every human being who does evil, Jew first and then Greek. 10 But there will be glory, honor, and peace for everyone who does good, Jew first and then Greek. 11 4 There is no partiality with God.
Paul wrote that, right? LOL!
The message of Jesus Christ; His becoming man to meet us on our own level, His Passion, death, and Resurrection; His Ascension into Heaven, the descent of the Holy Spirit, and the hope and promise of salvation for the Faithful.
You, OTOH, had only your goofy opinion that Paul was not Trinitarian.
So this time you jump through the hoops, Mark. You disprove 2,000 years of Christianity. You labeled Paul anti-Trinitarian, a slander denied by the Christian world, so you prove your opinion which swims and sinks against the current.
Men hate Pol Pot, Hitler, Stalin, and Mohammed. Are they prophets of God? Your statement appears to be proof that you believe that they are.
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