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To: Jim 0216
The Early Church Fathers learned directly from the apostles and those that were with the apostles. The Holy Spirit was with them for sure. If they had a consensus, then we know it was of the Holy Ghost. As for us, we are just one person, who knows if it's the Holy Ghost or something else?

“There are as many sects now and beliefs as there are heads. This fellow has nothing to do with baptism. Another one denies the sacraments. A third believes there is another world between this one and the last day. Some teach that Christ is not God. Some say this, some say that. There is no rustic so rude that if he dreams or fancies anything believes it must be the whisper of the Holy Spirit and that he himself must be a prophet.”(Martin Luther)

97 posted on 06/10/2010 6:54:56 AM PDT by Leoni
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To: Leoni

Jesus put in no such limitations in his dissertation on the Holy Spirit in John 14-16. I’ll go with what Jesus said in God’s Word over Martin Luther any day.


101 posted on 06/10/2010 7:07:35 AM PDT by Jim W N
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To: Leoni

Leoni, looks like we skipped over the first question I asked you on Post # 95, which I think needs to be understood before going on to all this other stuff.


102 posted on 06/10/2010 7:35:41 AM PDT by Jim W N
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