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To: Matchett-PI

Considering YOUR definition of a “fundie,” you have no right to call me that. You know nothing. I can assure you that I am neither naive nor “overly literalist,” so when the Scripture says “hand of God,” unlike Benny Hinn (a wacko) I do not believe it means that God is literally using a physical hand. However, the Bible is literal in many places and, unlike liberals and those who have tried to diminish scripture, I believe that there is a literal Hell, there was a literal Noah, that there is a devil and so on.


211 posted on 06/09/2010 8:49:18 AM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise
You know

Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

213 posted on 06/09/2010 9:11:56 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: Paved Paradise
"... “fundie,” you have no right to call me that."

As you KNOW, I didn't call you by ANY name (fundie or otherwise).

I said it was a fundie "teaching". At this point in your understanding, you want to believe that teaching -- a teaching you did not come up with on your own since it dates back, and was viewed as a heretical belief, clear back in the first century:

"Then is it Jacob the patriarch in whom the Gentiles and yourselves shall trust? Or is it not Christ? As, therefore, Christ is the Israel and the Jacob, even so we, who have been quarried out from the bowels of Christ, are the true Israelitic race" (Justin Martyr, *Dialogue with Trypho, a Jew* "Christ is the King of Israel, and Christians are the Israelitic Race" Ch. CXXXV, c. A.D. 150).

As I quoted before, the "obscure doctrine of Chialism/Millennarianism] was confined to those of the simpler sort." [per Origen](Waddington's History, pg. 56

Read 2 Peter 3 alongside of 1 Corinthians 3.

Premillennialism is destroyed by these Scriptures.

216 posted on 06/09/2010 9:58:24 AM PDT by Matchett-PI ("If Obama Won, Then Why Won't Democrats Run on His Agenda?" ~ Rush Limbaugh - May 19, 2010)
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