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To: SZonian
For me, I’m not that sure I’m god in embryo material anyway...

Well, I think you've hit upon the central issue as revealed by the teens this sem teacher polled. Almost half of Mormon teens are thinking exactly like that: "Me? A god (or goddess)? No way"

And so they think the issue is them -- I've even seen several years ago where at a BYU women's conference where one of the speakers referenced the reality that perhaps some of the women out there didn't have husbands who were "celestial material"...

So, in reality they look more to the "natural" -- the "material" -- what Lds "prophet" Spencer W. Kimball referenced as the ability to "pull yourself up by the bootstraps" (and he wasn't the lone Mormon leader to use this term).

10 posted on 06/05/2010 3:48:01 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: Colofornian
I've even seen several years ago where at a BYU women's conference where one of the speakers referenced the reality that perhaps some of the women out there didn't have husbands who were "celestial material"...

Well, maybe things have changed a lot...It was quite amusing to go back to the area in which I grew up and see all the men I knew as teens now installed in bishoprics and stake presidencies or councilors to same...the ones whose first baby with their temple-sealed wife was one of those "eight-month" babies, the guys that used to sneak out of Mutual dances for a quick drink in the parking lot...

IMO, the mormon church as become more and more rigid and unforgiving over the years. My garmie-wearimg MIL ALWAYS had a pitcher of iced tea in the refrigerator, and my ex-husband reached the status as "elder" without, as far as I know, ever paying a dime in tithing. Of course, this was the guy who enjoyed slapping me around as a "rebuke" and his first cousin was first councilor to the bishop..the bishop who called me to a court of love for telling him "I quit the church."...who had quite a few kids, several of whom turned out to be hell-raisers...

I think the Karma ran over his Dogma.

I am SO glad I was able to move my own kids away from that toxic place and raise them as non-mormon...and so are they!

13 posted on 06/05/2010 4:00:16 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Big ears ran as the messiah, but is turning out to be just a plain old mess.)
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