Looks like someone finally went off the deep end!
Posted on 06/02/2010 1:47:13 PM PDT by reaganaut
Jesus of Nazareth, also known as Jesus Christ, or simply Jesus, is the central figure of Christianity. The life and sermons of Jesus form the basis of the Christian faith. Jesus Christ is recognized by believing Christians as God incarnate, the Son of God who was raised from the dead—the Redeemer of mankind—the most important figure in history.
According to Mormon doctrine, Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world. However, it seems that even the perceived Savior of the world is not exempt from LDS temple rituals. Proxy rites for Jesus Christ were performed in the Salt Lake (LDS) Temple in Utah, in April 2010. The Salt Lake Temple, located on Temple Square in the heart of Mormon-dominated Salt Lake City, was dedicated on April 6, 1893—three years before Utah became a state in 1896—and is one of the oldest of the 132 currently operating temples that are owned and maintained by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS.)
New FamilySearch is the online genealogy database of the LDS Church that contains updated details of LDS temple ordinances that have been done for dead people. There are multiple listings for Jesus Christ in New FamilySearch—under different versions of his identity—which have been submitted by individual Mormons. It is not known how many times Jesus has been subjected to LDS rites because all New FamilySearch records for him—including combined records—show LDS ordinance details as “Not Available.”
On May 27, 2010, there were two similar records for Jesus in New FamilySearch which had been submitted by the same person. One listing was titled “Jesus Christian,” and showed “Jesus Christian” was born “before 1500 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1550 Jerusalem, Israel.” LDS ordinances were tagged as “Not available” on this record. The other entry was for “Jesus Cristian,” who was born “before 1502 Bethlehem, Israel,” and died “before 1539 Jerusalem, Israel.” The entry for “Jesus Cristian” gave a description of LDS ordinances, along with the name of a spouse—“Maria Magdelena.”
“Jesus Cristian” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” “Jesus Cristian” was also subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and a marriage “sealing” to “spouse” “Maria Magdelena” on April 9, 2010—all rites occurred in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”
It appears the submissions for “Jesus Christian,” and “Jesus Cristian” were attempts to manipulate the identity of Jesus Christ through the LDS temple system. The misspelled “Cristian,” instead of “Christian,” could have been a typo, or a deliberate error. It may have been intentionally entered as “Cristian” to get around a computer program that automatically blocks submissions that contain the names “Jesus Christ.” That would explain why the entry for “Jesus Christian” shows LDS ordinances as “Not available.”
While both New FamilySearch records in question lack complete birth and death data, and give imprecise “before” years of these events—the first name “Jesus” combined with the surnames “Christian” and “Cristian” (both spins on the name of “Christ”) are signs that “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” are pseudonyms for Jesus Christ.
Other indicators on the New FamilySearch records that point to Jesus Christ are the birth place, “Bethlehem,” and the death location, “Jerusalem.” (Jesus Christ was born in Bethlehem and died outside the walls of old Jerusalem.) Another clue to the identity of “Jesus Cristian” is the name of his “spouse”—“Maria Magdelena,” a misspelled variant of Mary Magdalene. “Maria Magdelena” is not listed on the “Jesus Christian” record.
Because “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” have similar names and identical birth and death locations—“Bethlehem” and “Jerusalem,” they are probably the same person. Their birth and death years are similar, but not the same. The estimated dates listed for these events look like they have been fabricated. According to their New FamilySearch records, “Jesus Christian” and “Jesus Cristian” were born and died in the 16th century. “Jesus Christian” lived roughly 50 years, while “Jesus Cristian” died in his thirties.
On May 27, 2010, “Maria Magdelena” was listed in New FamilySearch with her birth date as “1504 Israel,” and death date as “before 1540 Israel.” Both years are likely inventions. Along with “spouse” “Jesus Cristian,” “Maria Magdelena” was baptized and confirmed a member of the LDS Church by proxy on April 8, 2010 in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.” She was subjected to initiatory temple ordinances on April 8, 2010; an endowment ceremony on April 9, 2010; and the marriage “sealing” to “Jesus Cristian” on April 9, 2010—all rites were done in the “Salt Lake City Utah Temple.”
Mary Magdalene is described in the New Testament as a faithful follower of Jesus. Because the concept of marriage is strongly emphasized in LDS teachings, the notion that a spousal relationship existed between Jesus and Mary Magdalene is common among Mormons—although that belief is not formal LDS doctrine. There is no reliable historical evidence to indicate that Jesus was married—to Mary Magdalene, or anyone else.
LDS Church officials have publicly stated that the New FamilySearch program is a technological deterrent to improper submissions. Yet—under their very noses—on Temple Square in Salt Lake City, Jesus Christ—under a false name—two millennia after his birth, was offered Mormon salvation and an erroneous eternal marriage sealing.
Sometime late in the day on May 27, 2010, the individual entries for “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” were scrubbed from New FamilySearch—concealing the evidence that LDS rites had recently been performed for these two names in the Salt Lake Temple. The sudden disappearance of these records is a strong indication that “Jesus Cristian” and “Maria Magdelena” represent Jesus Christ and Mary Magdalene.
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I care. If you call a turnip a rose will it smell like a rose? A lie is a lie no matter who says otherwise. I don’t want any cult baptizing me. They don’t have the right.
How about our culture?
“Courtesy ping”? Right. Courtesy is the last thing on your minds. The fact that all the usual suspects have hopped on this thread to join in the insults just proves my point.
The Mormon baiting that goes on here is disgusting. The fact that you are allowed to continue it is the reason I no longer donate here. You people personify all the worst stereotypes about conservatism. Although the fact that you constantly seek to alienate and offend a group of people who are reliably conservative sometimes makes me wonder if you are really trolls, seeking to divide conservatives.
Must be Adam Smith and Eve Jones both born Eden, Tennessee and passed away just on the outside of Garden City, New York by LDS genealogy standards.
Or you don't want to be offended by what truth is revealed about lds, when you claim they are lies, then tell us what is truth in your mind, rather than insults to the posters and innuendo.
That is utterly perverted!
As a member of a reliably conservative group and a poster on the worlds largest Conservative Internet Forum, you no longer donate because peoples are taking the very Conservative act of practicing their first amendment rights.
Got it.
Explains why the “reliable Conservative” LDSers here were pushing the “reliably Conservative” socialist Romney.
I guess like all things LDS it is how you feel that set definitions, facts need not apply.
(BTW I do not expect and answer, just like i did not expect one about the “threshold’ question I asked earlier up thread.)
It is beyond perverted and yet it is only a sampling of what lds teaches.
It really isn’t just about how you feel. It is about how you feel at any given moment because if you feel different some other time that is what counts not what you felt before.
Of course.
Motorized goal post...
I pretty much stopped trying to figure out the thought processes of religious folks outside my own personal experience. If I can’t talk to someone directly, I tend to assume an inane disconnect in the thought process of anyone who makes religious claims that I can’t actually reconcile myself.
So far my S.O.P. is working well.
Things like the bizarre developments discussed on this thread are outside my usual “doing the best they can, the rest is between them and God” stance. Some stuff just makes me worry about those involved.
Mind you, it’s not their concept of Christ being married that bothers me. It’s their concept of baptizing Him into a faith that deviates sufficiently so as to no longer be Christian, then subsequently enforcing the standards of that faith onto Him. It’s the WHOLE picture, rather than one or two facets.
I have zero interest in what you think. Truth is still truth, lies are still lies. Satan is and always has been the master of lies and deception.
Um, just a little curiosity here, but if you have zero interest in what svcw thinks why did you ask them “How about our culture?” in the prior post...
Looks like someone finally went off the deep end!
Then why did you ask me? What a strange response.
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ROTFL!!! I am definitely stealing that one!
We have different ideas of “strange”.
That would translate as freeloading...are you boasting about it?
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