And then you start out by quoting from Ignatius forged letters...C'mon, don't you something more credible that the so called writings of Ignatius???
and all of those Churches in that region look “Nothing like your little protestant sect” in backwoods USA or wherever you happen to reside.
I totally agree...And they don't at all resemble the churches in the scriptures...Bowing down to the successor of Peter who sits on a throne...Calling Peter's successor Holy Father...Peter would be drowning in his own vomit if he had to see what was going on in his name...
the Racipulation Theology of Christ as the New Adam, whihch further developed St. Pauls theology of the first Adam and Christ as the second Adam, etc and Mary as the New Eve, among two examples)
Ajpparently you guys will believe anything Catholic regardless of how ridiculous...
Paul's theology of the first Adam and Christ as the second Adam were partially developed by Origen??? Oh brother...
Now we know the Mary as the new Eve farce was developed by your religion...That's no secret...
For example, in Genesis 14:18, the Priest-King Melchizedek made an offering of Bread and Wine and later the Psalms (110:4) make a prophecy that “you will be a Priest like Melchizedek forever.” This passages are typological in that they prefigure Christ, i.e. Melchizedek is a “type of Christ” and thus Christ fullfills the signs/actions/person of Melchizdek and Christ eternal priesthood is made forever present to his followers through the Holy Eucharist [i.e. Christ offering Bread and Wine as documented in the 3 Synoptic Gospels and 1 Corinthians Chapter 10)
You guys need to rethink your typology...What are the signs, actions and person of Melchizedek that you are referring to??? The scriptures gave no hint that Melchizedek provided signs or actions...
No doubt that Melchizedek was not only a type of Christ but was actually Christ before the incarnation...
There in no connection between the bread and wine that Melchizedek and your Eucharist...
Iscool:
No, I said the recapitulation theory was further developed by St. Ireneaus of Lyon (175 AD). As for Melchizedek being Christ before the Incarnation, that is utter nonsense as that would have made Christ’s incarnation happen in Genesis, which is theological heresy of the 1st order.
Melchizedek was a priest and priest offer sacrifice and the offering that Melchizedek made used “Bread and Wine” and thus Christ eternal priesthood is of the order of Melchizedek (cf Ps 110:4) as it points to how God gave us Bread to strengthen us and Wine to gladden to our hearts (cf Ps 104:14-15).
Indeed, throughout the OT you see Bread being an important sign as the Jewish people are liberated from Slavery in Egypt and journey to the Promise Land (cf Ex 12: 1-20 (passover), Exodous Chapter 16 [Manna is food for the journey as the Jewish people wonder for 40 years before entering the Promise Land, which prefitures the Eucharist as our spiritual food in this life on our journey to our heavenly homes, etc).
As for the forged Letters of St. Ignatius, every reputable Scholar, Catholic, Eastern Orthodox and Anglican and Reformed Patristic Scholars in Europe [J.B. Lightfoot, Harnack and Zahn] agree that there are 7 authentic Ignatian epistles.
Now, the best evidence of that the 7 Ignatian epistles are authentic can be found in the CHurch History written by Eusebius in the early 4th century as he quotes from them and St. Jerome’s writings in the late 4th and early 5th, who also quotes extensively from them.
Again, the consensus of Catholic, Orthodox and Anglican Patristic Scholars is that there are 7 extant Ignatian epistles which are the letters to the Church at Ephesus; Church of Magnesia; Church at Tralles; Church of Rome;
Church of Philadelphia; Church of Smyrna; and a Letter to St.Polycarp.