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To: CTrent1564
Thus, everytime you quote the Sacred Scriptures, you are relying on the authority of the Catholic Church and its formal definition of the Biblical Canon in the 4th century councils of Rome (382), Hippo (393), Carthage (397) and culimating with Pope Innoncent’s Letter to the Bishops of France in 405 confirming throughout the Latin Catholic West the decisions of the Councils mentioned earlier.

A little problem there...I don't quote from the Catholic scriptures...I quote from the scriptures that were borne out of Antioch, Syria, where people were first called Christians...

And those scriptures condemn your religion and it's priesthood...

However, even the Catholic scriptures point out serious errors in your religion but your church father, Origen, convinced your church that the scriptures were no more than an allegory, thus relieving your religion of the many biblical warnings against it...

Problem with that is; whenever you guys claim these things are an allegory, you don't seem to have a clue as to what they then do allude to...

57 posted on 06/02/2010 7:25:56 AM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool
And those scriptures condemn your religion and it's priesthood...

No, your sects' twisting of those scriptures make it seem like it is the case.

61 posted on 06/02/2010 7:39:30 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("If you know how not to pray, take Joseph as your master, and you will not go astray." - St. Teresa)
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To: Iscool

“I quote from the scriptures that were borne out of Antioch, Syria, where people were first called Christians...”

Which books did they include?


69 posted on 06/02/2010 10:00:18 AM PDT by BenKenobi (I want to hear more about Sam! Samwise the stouthearted!)
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To: Iscool; CTrent1564; Natural Law
I quote from the scriptures that were borne out of Antioch, Syria, where people were first called Christians... And those scriptures condemn your religion and it's priesthood...

ROFL!! I attend a Maronite Catholic Church which traces its ancestry back to Antioch. Our priests are fully Catholic. Perhaps you are quoting from the Gnostic gospels.

70 posted on 06/02/2010 10:15:00 AM PDT by NYer (Preachers who avoid every thorny matter so as not to be harassed do not light up the world!)
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To: Iscool

Iscool:

So I guess you should be on Star Trek as it seems somehow the scriptures got transported down thru the centuries to you. Antioch is where the Church was called Catholic in 105 AD [See St. Ignatius of Antioch] and all of those Churches in that region look “Nothing like your little protestant sect” in backwoods USA or wherever you happen to reside.

Those Churches then, as now, are Catholic or Eastern Orthodox and have no stains of the any of the various Protestant Heresies.

Origen argued for a multiple sense of Scripture approach, which included the Literal and Alllegorical, which was used before him by the Fathers such as St. Justin Martyr and more so by St. Irenaus (i.e. the Racipulation Theology of Christ as the New Adam, whihch further developed St. Pauls theology of the first Adam and Christ as the second Adam, etc and Mary as the New Eve, among two examples)

And Origen only proposed the 4-Sense of Scripture methodology, among which include the Literal Sense of Scripture. So you are dead wrong, as usual.

The Church does have an idea of how allegory is in the Scriptures. Typology, which used allegorical methods, is the main basis for Catholic Biblical interpretation and how it is read in the Liturgy. For example, in Genesis 14:18, the Priest-King Melchizedek made an offering of Bread and Wine and later the Psalms (110:4) make a prophecy that “you will be a Priest like Melchizedek forever.” This passages are typological in that they prefigure Christ, i.e. Melchizedek is a “type of Christ” and thus Christ fullfills the signs/actions/person of Melchizdek and Christ eternal priesthood is made forever present to his followers through the Holy Eucharist [i.e. Christ offering Bread and Wine as documented in the 3 Synoptic Gospels and 1 Corinthians Chapter 10).

tsk, tsk,


73 posted on 06/02/2010 10:19:33 AM PDT by CTrent1564
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