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To: John McDonnell; Colofornian; All

The destructions that occurred in Mesoamerica during the time that Jesus was suffering on the cross happened about a year prior to Christ visiting His people in Mesoamerica and blessing their children, as I have quoted from 3 Nephi. So your “jesus then proceeded to burn, drown, and bury” is a misrepresentation.

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NOT AT ALL. Just to make sure I went back and checked those chapters.

The destructions and murders TOOK PLACE AFTER THE CRUCIFIXION, NOT A YEAR BEFORE. YOU ARE INCORRECT.
3 Ne. 8:5 And it came to pass in the a*thirty and fourth year, in the first month, on the fourth day of the month, there arose a great storm, such an one as never had been known in all the land.

Then it goes on to tell of the destruction and the 3 days of darkness from the storm. During the 3 days of darkness (right after Christ’s death) is when they hear Christ’s voice stating that He caused these deaths. Nor is there anything in the text that would even indicate that a year passed. Therefore your assertion that it was a year before is incorrect and misleading.

The footnotes to this are for the Crucifixion of Christ not ‘a year before’.

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/8/5a

Footnotes
5a
Hel. 14: 20 (20-27)
20 But behold, as I said unto you concerning another asign, a sign of his death, behold, in that day that he shall suffer death the sun shall be darkened and refuse to give his blight unto you; and also the moon and the stars; and there shall be no light upon the face of this land, even from the time that he shall suffer death, for the space of cthree days, to the time that he shall rise again from the dead.
3 Ne. 11: 2.
2 And they were also conversing about this Jesus Christ, of whom the asign had been given concerning his death.
b
TG Jesus Christ, Crucifixion of.
TG Jesus Christ, Death of.

Complete chapter can be found here:

http://scriptures.lds.org/en/3_ne/8

The RLDS (CoC) does not have the Book of Mormon online yet.

So, again John, why would Jesus’ death cause resurrection in Jerusalem at His death while He kills tens of thousands for wickedness (AFTER He atoned for their sins) halfway around the world AT THE SAME TIME!!!!


551 posted on 05/30/2010 12:34:32 PM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christian - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut
Just read the Third Book of Nephi and this sequence of events will seen as correct:

3 Nephi 4:6, Restored Covenant Edition:

"And it came to pass that in the thirty and fourth year, IN THE FIRST MONTH, in the fourth day of the month..."

Then follows a description of massive destructions.

3 Nephi 4:17, RCE:

"...all these great and terrible things were done in about the space of three hours."

Then follows three days of darkness, during which the survivors in devastated areas howled, "O that we had repented before this great and terrible day..."

During the three days of darkness the survivors heard the voice of Jesus Christ speaking to them, explaining why the destructions had to come upon them: "to hide their wickedness and their abominations from before My face, that the blood of the prophets and the saints should not come up anymore unto Me against them ... O all ye that are spared because ye were more righteous than they, will ye not return unto Me and repent of your sins and be converted, that I may heal you?" etc.

3 Nephi 4:74, RCE:

"And it came to pass that IN THE ENDING of the thirty and fourth year, behold, I [Mormon] will show unto you that the people of Nephi which were spared, and also they which had been called Lamanites which were spared, did have great favors shown unto them and great blessings poured out upon their heads, insomuch that soon after the ascension of Christ into heaven, He did truly manifest Himself unto them..."

Notice the clear contrast between "in the first month" of the 34th year for the destructions and "in the ending" of the 34th year for the manifestation of Jesus Christ.

So I was correct in stating the the destructions took place about a year before the ministry of Christ in America, which I find to be stunningly beautiful, so much so that it inspired me to write the poem "Behold the Children", which I posted on this thread.

590 posted on 05/30/2010 3:26:30 PM PDT by John McDonnell
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