Were my 'labeling' glib John, I would not have taken the time or effort to construct the detailed replies that i have. As has been shown numerous times - witnesses related to the bom are not credible.
Joseph Smith III was an honest man.
He also made himself out to be a prophet of God.
If you call anyone a liar that states anything that you don't like, what kind of person are you?
Ah, thanks for the predictability John - when finding oneself refuted on every hand - launch personal attacks. John - I've produced factual documentation to support my statements, therefore I base my judgments upon those facts. To infer other is to attempt to make the discussion personal against me John - don't go down that road.
Your attacks on other's beliefs without revealing your own suggests that you would not like anyone to attack your beliefs in the same manner in which you attack theirs.
The issue YOU started was the attempt to defend the bom via the 11 witnesses. What my beliefs are of no bearing on the reliability or rather the unreliability, of the individuals. But so you sleep better, I am an equal opportunity offender and have challenged dozens of other cults and their followers throughout the years.
Are you that insecure in your faith that it cannot be critically examined? Didn't smith do EXACTLY the same as you are accusing me of? Of course he did - but that is just another part of the false prophet that is joseph smith. He can't keep his story straight with out lying about how the bom got written, he can't keep his story straight about the first vision. You, as a CoC already acknowledge that the book of abraham is spurious, as well as all the temple rituals, ordinances, etc that smith initiated under the so-called direction of 'god'. By those two things alone smith is a certified false prophet - why believe anything else he may have said or written.
Most of all it gets down to it being pointless to argue with a person saying it is a clear and sunny day while you watch from under your umbrella as they are getting drenched in a down pour, because agreeing with them will not stop the rain allowing you to put the umbrella down, it will just means BOTH of you are now all wet if you do...
BTW the pinata is down to its core atomic particles, a few random electrons and protons are all that's left...
But you produced no documents backing up your claim that Joseph Smith III made up a myth. You accused him of lying without any basis for doing so.