Posted on 05/27/2010 6:44:33 AM PDT by Colofornian
Well, it doesn’t sound like an apology to me.
Have you even read the Book of Mormon?
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Over 15 times in FULL. More than most Mormons.
I am familiar with both ‘testimonies’. I am also familiar with the fact that they signed them but signed what Smith wrote and most didn’t like the wording. I am also familiar with other OUTSIDE sources that state they did not actually ‘see’ the plates, and that when they ‘hefted’ them, they were in a box covered by a cloth. Are you so ignorant that you are unaware of the full history of your church???
Hey, guys, “Mr. Three Nephites” is back!
Wow. I wish I could respond to this long post but I don’t know if has been translated correctly.
Brilliant! And perfectly stated.
You have just admitted that the testimonies of the 3 and 8 witnesses were never recounted.
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Nice try but no dice. I said they did not recount the seeing the plates with ‘spiritual eyes’. Many did recant in various amounts. Some rejoined, some considered him a fallen prophet and others started their own sects.
But most DID recant or state that they did not PHYSICALLY SEE the plates.
When you display such ignorance of the testimonies of the 3 and 8 witnesses, I find it difficult to believe that you have read the Book of Mormon 15 times. Anyone who hates the book as much as you would not want to waste one’s time reading it more than once! So I think that you are lying.
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LYING? First off, that is against forum rules to accuse me of lying.
Second, read my tagline. I used to be LDS (for several years). The best way to combat the heresy of Mormonism is to know your Bible, the second is to know your enemy.
And I have more knowledge of the testimonies and LDS history than most Mormons, I did when I was LDS (history major) and I do now. Even my LDS friends admit that. But if it makes you feel better, go ahead and ignore facts.
“A fanciful story”? It does not tell one story. It is a compilation of narratives, preachings, letters, dialogues between persons, etc.
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It tells the ‘story’ of the religious dealings of the Lamanites and the Nephites and the supposed appearance of Christ in the Americas (where BTW He KILLED THOUSANDS).
But, again, if you prefer I will change it to ‘fanicful STORIES’.
Welcome back Kid...
May God lead you to find something good to build up, instead of only wishing to tear down what you have ignorantly designated as evil.
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ROFLMAO. This is something good. You see, my goal is to SHRED Mormon doctrine and history. WHY? God has called me to it. WHY? So ignorant people are WARNED against joining a religion founded by Satan. I am sounding a warning call, both to those who think Mormonism is harmless and to those who are trapped in it.
Now, before you go into the standard ‘you are a mormon hater’ bit, I don’t hate Mormons. I have several LDS friends. I DO hate MormonISM. It is an evil, sadistic, and damnable heresy that leads people to Hell and you better believe I will fight it with my last breath. I am COMMANDED to do so by God.
2 Corinthians 11:12-13
12. And I will keep on doing what I am doing in order to cut the ground from under those who want an opportunity to be considered equal with us in the things they boast about.
13. For such men are false apostles, deceitful workmen, masquerading as apostles of Christ.
And before you start with “you couldn’t live the gospel so you left’, I will inform you that
I had a VERY STRONG LDS testimony
I was good LDS
I didn’t leave because I couldn’t ‘live the standards’
I was temple worthy
I didn’t leave because I wanted to sin
I was a model LDS ‘molly mormon’.
I left because I found out the LDS church was a lie.
I find it amusing you are accusing ME of being shallow and ignorant when it is YOU that have produced nothing of substance.
Now, next topic?
Don’t make it personal, fair warning.
And your comments to nana are uncalled for.
So, what exactly IS your faith since you are so insulting of ‘born agains’?
pure evil placemarker
I wish I could respond to this long post but I don’t know if has been translated correctly.
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Oh Snap!
Words like "false" "error" "wrong" "misleading" are not making it personal.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Discuss the issues all you want, but do NOT make it personal.
So because the witnesses testified on one occassion to the credibility of JS and later they become disenchanted, for some reason, they recant and now you discount their testimony?
That’s rich. Their first testimony is fine by you as a matter of convenience but their later recanting their testimony is only indicative of a fissure in their morals?
Come on and breathe the air....it’s fine and the sky is blue on this planet...
Seriously, how does one(not saying you) but, how does one explain both testimonies and upon examination which side should one reasonably conclude is correct(in terms of their testimony and recanting)?
thanks
“Crazy”?
Why that nutty woman is the sanest I have met ever...
That is true but what subject do you want to discuss?
LDS and Christianity or do you prefer drift along, listlessly, bringing up whatever non sequitor or shiny object that catches your eye?
Wait...
I was under the impression you were a lying, liar and lying with dogs is what gave you fleece? /S LOL
Wait...
I was under the impression you were a lying, liar and lying with dogs is how you got fleeced? /S LOL
Ooopsie
fixed LOL
long night, Vendome? LOL.
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