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To: GingisK; Outlaw Woman
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The easiest way to penetrate this veil is to ask the "new age experts" to show the math behind their assumptions. They will attempt to proclaim that their knowledge transcends Newtonian physics. It can then be shown that they don't know Newtonian physics, which we demonstrated to be true ages ago.

That's not very useful to Christians, though -- in some ways. Let me illustrate a way in which it's not useful.

As Christians, we know that we will be resurrected from the dead, and be given immortal and perfect bodies -- as the Bible tells us that the dead will be raised up (from the earth and even those having been scattered in the oceans, having died a very long time ago). And then -- the "living" at that time, will be changed from their mortal bodies to immortal bodies, in the twinkling of an eye, while still alive, not having to die first, but being transformed "on the spot" to the immoratal and perfect body, which they will live in corporeal and living bodies, never to die for eternity after.

NOW ... using that methodology that you use in asking those to "explain" some of these things that they assert ... I'm wondering how many Christians will be giving you the "mathematics" underlying the raising from the dead, even when they have been scattered in the earth and in the deepest oceans and how the mathematics of the matter explains the ones who are still alive at that time, being transformed into immortal bodies, that never die from that time forward, on into eternity.

How are those Christians, not only supposed to give the mathematics behind it, how are they to give any particular "laws of physics" behind it?

ALSO, what is the "mathematics" behind how Satan was able to do what he did to Job and his family ... when God gave him the "permission" to proceed -- with the power that God said he had (and could use).

Job Chapter 1

12 And the Lord said to Satan, "Behold, all that he has is in your
power; only do not lay a hand on his person." So Satan went out from
the presence of the Lord.

13 Now there was a day when his sons and daughters were eating and
drinking wine in their oldest brother's house;

14 and a messenger came to Job and said, "The oxen were plowing and the
donkeys feeding beside them,

15 when the Sabeans raided them and took them away--indeed they have
killed the servants with the edge of the sword; and I alone have
escaped to tell you!"

16 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, "The fire
of God fell from heaven and burned up the sheep and the servants, and
consumed them; and I alone have escaped to tell you!"

17 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, "The
Chaldeans formed three bands, raided the camels and took them away,
yes, and killed the servants with the edge of the sword; and I alone
have escaped to tell you!"

18 While he was still speaking, another also came and said, "Your sons
and daughters were eating and drinking wine in their oldest brother's
house,

19 and suddenly a great wind came from across the wilderness and struck
the four corners of the house, and it fell on the young people, and
they are dead; and I alone have escaped to tell you!"

20 Then Job arose, tore his robe, and shaved his head; and he fell to
the ground and worshiped.

21 And he said: "Naked I came from my mother's womb, And naked shall I
return there. The Lord gave, and the Lord has taken away; Blessed be
the name of the Lord."

22 In all this Job did not sin nor charge God with wrong.

AND, furthermore, I would like to know the "mathematics" and/or "laws of physics" that govern the ability of Peter to walk on the storm waves, out to Jesus, and how those same laws of physics which worked and allowed him to walk out there -- also -- functioned so as to have him "sinking down" a moment later. I'm sure we're talking about the same laws of physics in action at the one moment before and the one moment later -- acting in a consistent fashion upon Peter, while he was "walking on the waves" -- at one second and "sinking" the next second.

THEN, a real good one to know the mathemathics behind and the relevant laws of physics, would be how you create a "wall of water" on the left side and the right side of Israel, as they crossed over to the other section of dry land ("on the other side"), but then, after they got across, the walls of water on the left and right (which stayed up all night long, the night before), all of a sudden came crashing upon Pharoah's chariots and drowned them all, on the very same spot where Israel had just walked through.

It looks like -- at least to me -- that Christians would be no better at explaining the "mathematics" and "laws of physics" explaining some of those things that they know happened in the Bible -- than some of these other folks would be able to do.

YET..., in the case of Christians -- even though there is no mathematics and laws of physics that even the experts have been able to come up with to explain them -- Christians know that those things have happened exactly as the Bible has told them.

97 posted on 05/27/2010 2:03:55 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler
Christians know that those things have happened exactly as the Bible has told them.

Actually, they don't KNOW this for fact. They rely on faith. Christians rely on the assumption that the Bible was faithfully handed down through the ages, was not made up by man, and is interpreted for their sake by honest people. My experience with the clergy has greatly shaken my trust in them, and conseqently the entire shebang.

It is fortunate that this is really in God's hands rather than our own.

99 posted on 05/27/2010 2:17:08 PM PDT by GingisK
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