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To: GingisK; Quix; LibertyRocks; caww
You were saying ...

To name names, this would be Quix in particular. There are others whose names have been temporarily deleted from short term memory.

I think what you may be running into here is many FReepers ability to see -- that to use the "rational" and "scientific" approach -- to matters which are outside of mankind's ability to be able to "reason" and to see and perceive and measure, and even to "comprehend" in the first place (instead of just being told about it) -- is an "irrational methodology" in and of itself.

And I think you're seeing their reactions to this "irrational methodology" being used -- instead of using the inerrant, infallible and authoritative Word of God -- which "reveals" things to us, instead of "reasoning" things to us. ... :-)

132 posted on 05/28/2010 10:27:41 AM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

WELL PUT.

THX.


137 posted on 05/28/2010 11:20:55 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Star Traveler

I think what you may be running into here is many FReepers ability to see — that to use the “rational” and “scientific” approach — to matters which are outside of mankind’s ability to be able to “reason” and to see and perceive and measure, and even to “comprehend” in the first place (instead of just being told about it) — is an “irrational methodology” in and of itself.

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VERY WELL PUT.


216 posted on 05/29/2010 7:22:42 AM PDT by Quix (THE PLAN of the Bosses: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2519352/posts?page=2#2)
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To: Star Traveler; GingisK; LibertyRocks; Outlaw Woman

Treating “science” like it’s a belief system?..... Actually it’s not.... Science is about understanding how the world works.... You come up with an idea about why something is the way it is (theory),.... then you propose a way to test your theory to determine if it is “true” (experiment)..... It does not matter how elegant your theory is, it has to be proven to be true..... And not only that, other people who do the experiment should come up with experimentally accurate results..... That’s all there really is to it.

To say that there are areas in which science is “meant for” which in itself is a meaningless statement. Science is not meant for anything.... It’s simply a way to understand the world by developing theories that can be tested, either now or at some time in the future.

Some interesting thoughts from my e-mail....

....”Originally the mind was thought to be exempt from scientific study, yet we now have a much better understanding the mechanism by which are memories are stored in our brain. Freud did all of his study “about” the brain, yet now we now the electro-chemical mechanisms.

.... When someone loses their memorie, the person we knew is “gone”.

Quantum physics is most precisely tested theory (see Richard Feynmann’s QED lecture, one part of it is here):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMDTcMD6pOw

It tells us that the world of subatomic particles involves “probability” and that, in reality, every outcome is possible, though the highest probably is most likely and directs the overall future..... So science is able to deal with “uncertainty”, “probabilty” and other non-specfic items......

It’s easy to say that religion and faith cannot be understood by science, as if science is “bad” and cannot be used to understand this aspect of man. That would similar to saying that science is not desigend to “study the mind & memory”,... yet the advances in science in the study of the mind and memory have enabled us save people from brain issues as well as the continuing loss of memory.... Science is not a religeon,... but rather a process to study all aspects of the world around us.

The following link is Richard Feynman talking about the “rational scientific method”.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=


234 posted on 05/29/2010 1:38:02 PM PDT by caww
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