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To: Persevero; restornu

The point of once saved always saved is: God is more powerful than your sin and unbelief. He saves you, and He keeps you saved. It does NOT mean that you can pray the Jesus prayer and then go live a life of licentiousness.

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Exactly, but the LDS cannot see that. God is all powerful.

They believe they have to EARN their salvation. They bring God down to our level and exalt themselves to the level of God (literaly).

Also, is thread is a pathetic attempt at getting Christians to fight over non essential matters.


43 posted on 05/26/2010 6:42:14 AM PDT by reaganaut (Ex-mormon, now Christan - "I once was lost but now am found, was blind but now I see")
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To: reaganaut

>>> Also, [th]is thread is a pathetic attempt at getting Christians to fight over non essential matters.

I disagree on both counts.

1. I don’t see it as an attempt to cause in-fighting. It is a desperate battle for the hearts and minds of Christians waged by Satan himself. Just as I question my own conviction on the issue, I am sure that non-osas Christians must struggle with their position as well... otherwise, why would they see a need to re-inforce it through persuasion? I find it necessary to address this for the same reason.... it is troubling to me that as a Christian, I still have a desire for sin and therefore frequently question if I was ever saved in the first place... or if I have somehow lost it. In the end, it is my knowledge of God’s word and the core message of dependence upon His Grace that reminds me who is actually in control.

2. The issue is critically essential... not to the salvation of the individual, but rather to the effectiveness of our witness.

If you do not know the first thing there is to know about cars, how can you possibly expect to be successful selling them?


59 posted on 05/26/2010 7:38:04 AM PDT by Safrguns
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To: reaganaut
Well there are two solid points in your post.

The reason the LDS tosses aside the trinity and limits the power of their “once a man like us” god is so they too can reach his level. That is a serious selling point, especially to those with serious egos.

An all powerful God, you know, like the REAL ONE, makes that moot.

Second, the only way the LDS can have any modicum of success is to try and deflect from the truth, since their own hand is empty when exposed to the light.

61 posted on 05/26/2010 8:02:20 AM PDT by ejonesie22 (Christians: Stand for Christ or stand aside...)
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