No, that's not it.
The point is that the same teachings that regrettably produce an Andrew Cuomo or Nancy Pelosi also produce great saints. Sometimes, as the case with Bl. Charles de Foucauld, they experience a tremendous conversion process (that's why I suggested you look him up...)
Please think about this. We are all sinners in need of a savior.
Undoubtedly. The theory of being able to save oneself was condemned as a heresy back in the 400s (it's called Pelagianism). Nothing has changed that. We are all saved by the grace of God.
What I want you to do is show me how you are going to make apple pie from the tree that has just produced a bunch of pears (and rotten pears, to boot).
Again, as I said above, the same "tree" that has produced rotten pears has also produced tremendous fruit, to use your illustration. Perhaps the individuals who turned out rotten were not as fully grafted into that tree as they could have been.
ha ha, oh Mark. You are too much. I really enjoy talking with you, dear Brother.