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To: mlizzy; Outership

SERIOUS STUFF, for sure.

Led Zepplin et al are certainly a root to demonic oppression and possession.


15 posted on 05/05/2010 4:22:34 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

Demons can use anything to oppress and possess. As you can see by responses to this thread, idolatry and blasphemy can be found even among those that profess a knowledge of spiritual things. Both are a great way for demons to do their work. The company Apple and its products also promote idolatry.

Music can sometimes put the mind into an emotional experience. How and where that experience goes really depends on the person listening to it. And of course, a person won’t listen to music that gives them a bad emotional experience (like immoral music). Making your own music is the best way to go.

I don’t think I have heard more than two or three songs by Led Zeppelin, but I hear that their artistry with instrument playing is top notch. If you are a musician, you like that sort of thing. I have heard their song “Fool in the Rain” and I kind of like it. They don’t play my kind of music though, so I don’t feel much for them.

I see video games are getting kicked again. It is only two or three of those that I see as bringing out the evil in folk. You cannot seriously look at Mario, Zelda, et al and see demons. Almost all video games are of the ‘defeat the monsters and save the world’ idea. If you ask me, video games are the last refuge for people looking for moral entertainment these days (as a caveat here, board/card/tabletop role-playing games are still superior, but few people know enough people to play those, whereby video games can be played alone). They are apolitical (yes, you heard it right, there is actually still an activity that is not leftist propaganda), devoid of sex, devoid of foul language, devoid of images of amoral behavior. Unless you consider punching blocks and stomping on turtles as evil. I can’t understand you if you do though. The people that say “video games are evil” have never even seen one. Each video game is as unique as a novel.

Television shows and movies that are out now are SEEPED in sexual immorality, scatological humor, dishonoring of parents, and every kind of foul behavior. This is because 100% of them now are leftist. You have to go back at least to the 80s to find a decent movie or show. The further back, the better. Pop stars’ lives are seeped in evil, their songs seeped in sex. “Urban” music is seeped in evil, the people who make it live in evil. Not having a TV get’s rid of this problem. (Novels are all unique and can go either way at any time.) This behavior exists because people today have no self control or self respect. Both those things only come from being Christian. The enemy has raised up non-Christians to be “stars”. There are no more Christians in entertainment.

It is better to not school your child at all than to send them to Public School. Wish more people would take child rearing seriously. Keep them out of strangers’ hands like you would keep them away from pedophile priests.

Reading about wizards may lead to an interest in the occult and it may not. Is alchemy even sorcery? Or is it just pseudo/quack chemistry? You have to seriously delude yourself to believe Wicca or Voodoo actually gives you supernatural powers. Sure if you are performing rituals/praying to demons or dead people for powers or favors then that is bad. In almost all cases, if this is even present at all, it is the wizard’s enemy that is doing this, i.e. the bad guy. In storytelling, wizards are just another form of superhero. Some people love the idea of being a vampire or werewolf or other superhero archetype due to fantasies of being free from human fallenness. I don’t know if this is sinful. Who hasn’t wished they could fly? I like stories about wizards. It’s just pretend. For a little while you can pretend that you can do anything. Doesn’t mean I would ever perform a magical ceremony or take part in one. The enemy doesn’t really need wizard books to get people to do that though.

The real problem with demons is that they effect your life in the way a “ghost” would. Breaking things. Moving things. Making sounds. Being ‘seen’. Influencing those who have power over you to show you no mercy. They make evil people more evil. If they are in you, they cause serious limitations to your ability to function. Take a look at the man in the Bible who had “Legion” in him. He was so unable to live that he had to spend his life ranting and raving, cutting himself, and living in a graveyard. Everyone wanted to chain him up and do who knows what. He was a ‘monster’. Demons make you not in your right mind. People call this “emo” or mental illness now, but they have no idea what it is really about. Don’t get me wrong, sometimes it *is* due to physical injury or malformation. Those that have a life filled with demons do their best to gravitate to things that relieve their suffering. They may find it in music or stories that deal with freedom from human fallenness. But one does not create the other, and vice versa. You don’t need to read Twilight to have demon troubles, and reading Twilight doesn’t cause you to have them. May cause other suffering though, I hear mixed reviews.


38 posted on 05/05/2010 1:43:20 PM PDT by Outership (Looking for a line by line Book of Revelation Bible study? http://tiny.cc/rPSQc)
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