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That is what's done ,dear sister. The Church thoroughly investigates a miracle before one is declared

She did not say..INVESTIGATE she said held up to scripture . That is very different standard

The Immaculate conception can be traced back to the early Church
Here are examples
"THe was the ark formed of incorruptible wood. For by this is signified that His tabernacle was exempt from putridity and corruption." Hippolytus, Orations Inillud, Dominus pascit me (ante A.D. 235).

First of all that is almost 300 years after Christ, it is not contemporary. 2) This is a false teaching because the ark was a type of Christ , not Mary 3) The church fathers were not infallible and often were at odds or disagreed on doctrine among themselves . Reading this quote makes me wonder about the salvation of the author to be honest

"This Virgin Mother of the Only-begotten of God, is called Mary, worthy of God, immaculate of the immaculate, one of the one." Origen, Homily 1(A.D. 244).

And Origin was called a heretic by many Catholics on some doctrine . Notice he did not here, speak of her CONCEPTION or her spiritual condition..He may have been speaking f the conception of Jesus being immaculate

All I ask is show using the scriptures where Jesus or any of the apostles said Mary was sinless..

All of the quotes are made by fallible men .

First of all that is almost 300 years after Christ, it is not contemporary

Are you going to say the same thing about Christ's sine it did not become dogma until the Council of Nicea?

This is a false teaching because the ark was a type of Christ

What the Ark CONTAINED was a type of Christ-The Ark is a type of Mary. Christ did not birth Himself,dear Sister

The church fathers were not infallible /

And you are? They lived closer to Christ than you did and many gave their lives for Christianity. Who in their right mind would believe someone who sits on FR and cannot back up many of their beliefs with historical consistent writings?

All I ask is show using the scriptures where Jesus or any of the apostles said Mary was sinless..

There is lots of Typology on this all backed up with the Early Church Fathers

Just a few examples from scripturecatholic .com

Luke 1:39 / 2 Sam. 6:2 - Luke's conspicuous comparison's between Mary and the Ark described by Samuel underscores the reality of Mary as the undefiled and immaculate Ark of the New Covenant. In these verses, Mary (the Ark) arose and went / David arose and went to the Ark. There is a clear parallel between the Ark of the Old and the Ark of the New Covenant.

Luke 1:41 / 2 Sam. 6:16 - John the Baptist / King David leap for joy before Mary / Ark. So should we leap for joy before Mary the immaculate Ark of the Word made flesh.

Luke 1:43 / 2 Sam. 6:9 - How can the Mother / Ark of the Lord come to me? It is a holy privilege. Our Mother wants to come to us and lead us to Jesus.

Luke 1:56 / 2 Sam. 6:11 and 1 Chron. 13:14 - Mary / the Ark remained in the house for about three months.

First of all that is almost 300 years after Christ, it is not contemporary. 2) This is a false teaching because the ark was a type of Christ , not Mary 3) The church fathers were not infallible and often were at odds or disagreed on doctrine among themselves . Reading this quote makes me wonder about the salvation of the author to be honest

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INDEED.

There’s always been a LOT of picking and choosing amongst the early Christian records, imho. They are faithful Christians when the Roman Catholic edifice can find sufficient affirmation of it’s ‘exclusivity’ in their writings. And . . . they are labeled heretics when that’s not the case.