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To: mlizzy
"We should never again use the expression, 'When Jesus was on earth' or think of Him as being only in heaven, Jesus is still on earth." ... "While all the sacraments confer grace, the Eucharist contains the author of grace, Jesus Christ Himself" --Fr. John Hardon, S.J.

Sorry to say but all that can be said is your John Hardon lied to all of you...

Joh 16:28 I came forth from the Father, and am come into the world: again, I leave the world, and go to the Father.

Joh 16:7
Joh 16:8 And when he is come, he will reprove the world of sin, and of righteousness, and of judgment:
Joh 16:9 Of sin, because they believe not on me;
Joh 16:10 Of righteousness, because I go to my Father, and ye see me no more;

And there it is in the Blessed red ink...

Johnny Hardon is perverting scripture and you guys eat it up...Apparently you'll believe anything and everything EXCEPT God...

There's not a piece of God breathed scripture any where that suggests Jesus will be brought back to earth by your clerics to be turned into a wafer and be eaten...

422 posted on 04/30/2010 11:32:28 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: Iscool; Quix; metmom; 1000 silverlings; RnMomof7; wmfights
By insisting Christ is still on earth in the form of the eucharist, the papacy reveals that it obliterates the work and will of God the Holy Spirit who has been given to believers as their earthly comforter and instructor.

"The magnificence and grandeur of this corrupt religion that has become so rich at the expense of people, at the impoverishing of people, has bewitched the gullible world. They preach another gospel. How can we not see that? And for any man to be called “Holy Father,” and accept it...Jesus called God Holy Father in John 17 in His high priestly prayer, Jesus said, “Call no man father,” as if any man is the source of spiritual life, “Call no man father,” and yet the whole priesthood, they’re all called father...occasionally I’m even called father which is no small offense to me. He is called Holy Father, he’s usurped the title intended for God. He’s called the Head of the Church, he’s usurped a title intended for Christ. He’s called the Vicar of Christ, vicar connected to the word vicarious, the one who stands in the place of Christ and he has stolen that from the Holy Spirit. He has set himself in the place of God, he has set himself in the place of Christ and he has set himself in the place of the Holy Spirit, and that is overstepping your bounds. I don’t think Jesus or God the Father or the Holy Spirit would go to a meeting with Muslims, say they share a common spiritual bond and kiss the Koran." -- John MacArthur, THE POPE AND THE PAPACY

423 posted on 04/30/2010 11:59:01 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Iscool; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; hope; ..
[Quixicated]:
Apparently,
MANY
[?most?]
Roman Catholics et al hereon
[MOSTLY NOT
the 4 I've pinged]
. . .
EVIDENTLY,
MANY
[?MOST?]
believe
FAR TOO OFTEN
FAR TOO CLOSE TO
ANYTHING
AND
EVERYTHING
EXCEPT
GOD ALMIGHTY,
HIS WORD,
HIS SPIRIT,
HIS CHRIST.

everything EXCEPT God...

That relentlessly demonstrated fact over these 10+ years is perhaps the single most significant nonBiblical fact that has kept a fierce fire burning in my spirit toward being as vividly and fiercely active in declaring Biblical Truth as I more or less could these many years.

THE WORD OF GOD
has been my life
LITERALLY
more than a few times.
Part of me cannot
COMPREHEND
putting anything
SECONDARY TO
EVEN REMOTELY
EQUAL TO
THE WORD OF GOD.

It does not compute
to even imagine doing so.
IT GRIEVES MY SPIRIT
MOST SOBERLY
TO OBSERVE IT.

.
.
.
To observe it so frequently by folks I care greatly about is horrendous. If sitting in sackcloth and ashes at the top of every FR Rel Forum page would help and be possible, I'd do it.

If following them around most of their waking hours with coffee or tea and crumpets or chocolate covered almonds or raspberry tarts and Hagen Daz or rib-eye steaks or levitated Laz-Y-Boy's--were possible and would help--I'd do it.

If fasting to skin and bones and praying 18 hours a day, 7 days a week were possible for me and would help, somehow, I'd manage a way to do it.

I realize that many Roman Catholics et al hereon see me almost as the devil incarnate. Thankfully, they are wrong, again. I'm flawed enough. Thankfully, by God's Grace through Christ's Blood, I'm no longer near that flawed.

Many such folks seem to think that my motivation is horrendously mean spirited, carnal, even demonic.

The TRUTH is far the opposite of that.

Sometimes, it feels like I haven't learned a great deal for my 63 years of uhhhh burping and bloviating.

Sometimes, it feels like I have a lot of dull arrows in my quiver that seem to fly too often curved or wobbly.

[tears] However, I have learned the hard way and many dozens of times . . . that the very odd bird of rare plumage that God HAS CRAFTED within my skin and even between my ears and certainly within my heart and spirit--that too easily absurd character does have impact on a wide variety of personalities--and often when I least expect it--and often by some of my least winsome qualities and ways.

I've long wished it otherwise. I've long wished that the passionate caring that burns so intensely within me only came out in grandfatherly hugs and gentle Walter Brennen flavored Holy Spirit wisdom. Sometimes I can seem to be graced with and manage that brief--occasionally. Most of the time, my thrownness and assignment is otherwise scripted.

And the pot does not complain to the Master Potter unless the pot wants ground to grog-grit for the umpteenth time and mixed with new clay and begun anew on the whirling wheel of pressure, mud and risk of flying splat on the wall yet again. Thankfully, the Master Potter doesn't do that often--and usually only for effect to make an emphatic point.

I know I'm NOT one size fits all. And that's still too often frustrating and saddening.

Yet, it's NOT my job to be . . . how to say it . . . Yes, I'm to be broken bread and poured out hopefully sweet wine to those who cross my path--even Jesus' hands extended; Jesus' Heart enfolding; Jesus' Truth Freeing. Yet, I cannot be, was not designed to be, am not permitted to be the existential answer or even messenger to every person's every spiritual problem or cluelessness. What a burden of humility that would require!

I can only be me.

[lots of tears] HOWEVER, GOD HAS FASHIONED lil ol very flawed bird-of-rare-off-the-wall-plumage me--even and particularly FOR HIS PURPOSES. And, He IS carrying them out in spite of me and in spite of everyone else. PRAISE AND BLESSED BE HIS NAME.

I cannot construct, as my housemate with my wife once accused me of trying to do--I cannot construct the ideal tailormade swimming pool and under water basket weaving course to solve every person's existential spiritual growth glitch, roadblock.

THANKFULLY that's Holy Spirit's task anyway.

I have chosen and do choose and will, prayerfully, relentlessly choose to be HIS BROKEN BREAD AND POURED OUT WINE regardless of the assaults, lambasts, misunderstandings, outrages, gritches, . . . whatever . . . whether it looks like that to everyone else, or not.

So I persist in declaring as vividly and forthrightly as I can priority messages--such as the highest priority message well above "FLASH OVERRIDE:"

There are
NO SUBSTITUTES
FOR
GOD'S WORD!

There just aren't.
The multiverse was
NOT constructed that way.

I don't care if every church 'Father,'
every scrap of extra-Biblical document,
every magicsterical and cluster of power-mongering elite,
every monk in every monestary since Noah,
every king, editor, general, admiral, university dean, president & potentate from hell to Alpha Centauri around the world and back said and/or says otherwise--

THE MULTIVERSE
WAS
NOT
CONSTRUCTED
THAT WAY!

GOD CHOSE
[not Prottys, not scribes, not editors, not book sellers, not imbibing translators],

GOD CHOSE
to construct
the multiverse
ON HIS WORD
TO THE NTH DEGREE.
THIS IS CLEAR IN
HIS WORD.
THIS IS CLEAR IN
REALITY.
THIS IS CLEAR IN
EVERY LIFE.
THOSE LIVES
PAYING ATTENTION,
KNOW IT TO THEIR BONE MARROW.

Of course, satan has other notions to infect hearts and minds with. "Did God REALLLLLLLLY !!!!SAY!!!! . . .??? Didn't God REALLY MEAN . . . ???"
. . . the mean, deadly
seductive buZtard
[a cross between a buzard and a . . .]
literally hell-bent on destroying to shattered eternal DEATH every believer possible.

EVERY SUBSTITUTE
. . .
FOR GOD'S WORD
WAS
FASHIONED IN HELL
OR BY HELL
AND/OR
HAS, BY
HELL'S PROPAGANDA
BEEN TWISTED
TO HELL'S SEDUCTIVE GOALS
IN STRATEGY AFTER STRATEGY, CAMPAIGN AFTER CAMPAIGN, !!!!RELIGION!!!! AFTER RELIGION.
.
EVERY OTHER NOTION
IS A DEADLY LIE FROM HELL
--REGARDLESS OF THE ANGELS OF LIGHT
WRAPPINGS, PRESS CLIPPINGS,
ENCYCLICALS,
ECCLESIASTICAL RULINGS,
EX CATHEDRA PONFITICATIONS,
SUNDAY SCHOOL LEAFLETS,
VIDEO BROADCASTS,
DVD, CD SPECIAL OFFERS,
MYSTERIOUS GOLDEN PLATES IN PHONEY "HIEROGLYPHICS,"
APPARITIONS,
POMP AND CIRCUMSTANCE.
.
.
.
THERE
IS
!!!!NO!!!!
SUBSTITUTE
FOR
GOD'S WORD!

.
.
.
GOD'S WORD IS LIFE, ETERNAL LIFE AND SOUL PEACE BECAUSE THE LIVING WORD THE CHRIST IS PART AND PARCEL OF THE WRITTEN WORD--BY WHICH HOLY SPIRIT ENLIVENS AND MATURES, LEADING INTO ALL TRUTH AND RIGHTEOUSNESS THE WILLING COOPERATIVE HEART.

NOTHING
ELSE
WORKS.
.
.
.
EVERYTHING ELSE
to greater or lesser degree
is grossly inadequate
or
most likely is varying degrees of
DEADLY
AND PARTICULARLY ETERNALLY DEADLY.
.
.
.

It doesn't matter the sweet wrapping, the layers of white hankies, the Pomp and Circumstance; the angels of light visual displays.

DEADLY IS STILL DEADLY.

HAZARDOUS TO ETERNAL LIFE
IS STILL HAZARDOUS TO ETERNAL LIFE.
Partake at your own risk.
There are no sufficient air-bags
to cushion one's landing in hell.

And even to arrive in Heaven and realize how outrageously one has foolishly, lazily, cowardly missed their personal Mark of the High Calling potential IN JESUS, IN GOD'S LIVING WORD--THAT alone is sufficient cause to ponder most carefully

ANY
PRETENDER
TO THE
SUPREME
STATUS OF
AND
PURITY
GOD'S
UNADULTERATED
WORD

431 posted on 05/01/2010 6:37:39 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Iscool
PhotobucketWhile they were eating, Jesus took bread, gave thanks and broke it, and gave it to his disciples, saying, "Take and eat; this is my body" --Matt 26:26.
In order to appreciate the value of the Real Presence in the spiritual life, we must go back in spirit to the event described by St. John when our Lord, after He had worked the miracle of the multiplication of the loaves and fishes, made the solemn promise of the Eucharist. "I am the Bread of Life," Christ declared on that occasion. "He who comes to me will never be hungry. He who believes in me will never thirst. But, as I have told you, you can see me and still you do not believe. All that the Father gives me will come to me and whoever comes to me, I shall not turn him away because I have come down from heaven, not to do my own will, but to do the will of the one who sent me. Now the will of him who sent me is that I should lose nothing of all that he has given to me and that I should raise it up on the last day. Yes, it is my Father's will that whoever sees the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life and that I shall raise him up on the last day" --Fr. John Hardon, S.J.
I have included a letter my husband received from Mother Teresa of Calcutta. A courageous soul for Christ (and current blessed of the Church), she suggested the readings of Fr. J. Hardon.

To dismiss the saints (and all miracles worked through them), is curious. One can only surmise that if you didn't feel they happened through Christ, then they must have happened through Satan, because they surely *did* happen. And how will you explain your disrespect (for instance, referring to Fr. John Hardon as "Johnny Hardon") of Christ's priests, blesseds, and saints, when you come to greet Him?
445 posted on 05/01/2010 8:02:34 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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