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To: Ken4TA

I’m with you on this. I will accept the “temporal” punishment, or discipline - as my Heavenly Father calls it - on earth, where it will do me some good in my life in the nasty here and now. I will also accept that Jesus Christ is my “purgation” - my place of cleansing - as “the blood of Jesus Christ our Lord cleanses us from all sin.”. All sin is sin and the “wages of sin is death” not a little discomfort for an undetermined length of time between earth and the sweet by-and-by.


2,334 posted on 05/07/2010 10:10:41 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to him.)
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To: boatbums
Okay, I see what you say. Temporal needs to be defined for the ordinary person to understand what it means - however, it has a "religious" specific meaning: "lasting only for a time; transitory; temporary, not eternal." Temporal punishment means that the punishment last only for a time period defined by God, not man - so as regards the purgatory of the RCC, no one can say anything specific about how long any particular sins penalty will last as concerns a "soul"; if one believe that a person actually has a separate "entity" called a "soul" within ones body. Genesis 2:7 seems to say that man is ONE complete person, or one complete being - composed of a body animated by the spirit/breath of life which makes one a "living soul/being/person/creature/etc". Thusly, I cannot in good Conscience accept the idea of a "purgatory".

Certainly, to a Christian, Christ purges all the guilt and temporal punishment due to man - eternal death - by His death, burial and resurrection from the grave to an eternal life in a new, powerful, glorified, immortal spiritual body, just as the Apostle Paul reveals to us in I Corinthians 15.

Check out my web site for articles on this last paragraph - you may find them interesting.

2,352 posted on 05/08/2010 11:26:47 AM PDT by Ken4TA (The truth hurts those who don't like truth!)
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