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To: MarkBsnr
If the splinter groups were so few and far between I would wonder why the inquisition ever was prosecuted.

I named but a few but I'm certain you could easily locate many more. I mentioned the gruesome Flagellants’ practice,
And then were earlier the Circumcellions, sort of ‘death oriented’ mind.

The ancient nation of Israel had a corrupt and indifferent religious leadership too. Not every single individual, of course but as a class they were a cut below the harlots and tax collectors Jesus said. (Matt. 21:31)

They were in a covenant with God! and had been for centuries, they were Abraham's children and had written the what was the Scriptures at the time, preserved it, interpreted it, and had their traditions long established.

Sounds familiar. Yet God could tell Moses He would wipe out the whole nation of rebels and keep His promises, His covenant through Moses. (Num. 14:12)
Children of Abraham? John the Baptist said God could raise children to Abraham from the stones. (Matt. 3:8) And they near to getting the ax.

One could reason that claims mean nothing and that what was destroyed in 70 A.D. was no longer His nation. There's a lesson to gleaned from the example of that nation.

I would venture it was their policy to be morally correct too, problem is, they weren't.

“You may have noticed that we have not changed our stance on, for instance, abortion for nearly 2000 years.”

“The Catholic Church has not relaxed her strict prohibition of all abortion; but, as we have seen above, she has made it more definite. As to the penalties she inflicts upon the guilty parties, her present legislation was fixed by the Bull of Pius IX “Apostolicae Sedis”. It decrees excommunication — that is, deprivation of the Sacraments and of the Prayers of the Church in the case of any of her members, and other privations besides in the case of clergymen — against all who seek to procure abortion, if their action produces the effect. Penalties must always be strictly interpreted. Therefore, while anyone who voluntarily aids in procuring abortion, in any way whatever, does morally wrong, only those incur the excommunication who themselves actually and efficaciously procure the abortion.”

But are Catholics who procure, perform, aid, advocate, accept, help to legalize, ad infinitum, abortions excommunicated and otherwise sanctioned or is it just a ‘morally correct stance’?

2,308 posted on 05/07/2010 5:11:58 PM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: count-your-change

WELL PUT.

THX.


2,311 posted on 05/07/2010 5:25:08 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: count-your-change
If the splinter groups were so few and far between I would wonder why the inquisition ever was prosecuted.

To rid Spain of the Muslims.

I would venture it was their policy to be morally correct too, problem is, they weren't.

Yes. That is a problem with Catholics, as well. But are Catholics who procure, perform, aid, advocate, accept, help to legalize, ad infinitum, abortions excommunicated and otherwise sanctioned or is it just a ‘morally correct stance’?

They oughta be and there are a bunch of us trying to get that implemented.

2,324 posted on 05/07/2010 9:18:51 PM PDT by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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