[Dr. Eckleburg]

The reformation was based on the 5 solas ..all the churches that came directly out of the reformation were churches that were "calvinist"

There was a doctrinal split with some wanted to return to the more catholic view of free will . So yes Wag , the reformed get to say who is reformed just as the catholics get to say who is catholic.

AMEN! Jacob Arminius was a solid reformer who traveled to Rome and returned to write against the Reformation and God's sovereignty in all things.

We under-estimate the strength and determination and continuing efforts of the Counter Reformation if we assume Rome was just going to quietly accept the fact that its death grip was being derailed by the preaching of the truth.

The same mind of Machiavelli was behind the Counter Reformation. The Jesuits were created with the singular task of destroying the Reformation. One method was to infiltrate and subvert; keep the bottle, change the wine. Look like a Reformer. Sound like a Reformer. But when push comes to shove, deny the core, Scriptural values of the Reformation, and thus splinter the opposition and return the church to Rome.

Read...

"SWARM OF LOCUSTS: THE JESUIT ATTACK ON THE FAITH"

[Quix]

THX

[RnMomof7]

One of the problems we encounter is protestants are all lumped together in one box..
Those outside do not understand the reformation had a core belief that motivated the move from Rome.