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To: 1000 silverlings; Alamo-Girl; stfassisi; Salvation; NYer; markomalley; metmom; hosepipe; xzins
Quix has posted a long list of titles that Mary may or may not, be given by Catholics or some Catholics.

Yeah. I see that sort of thing practically every day.

But from whence did Quix derive this list of titles? Certainly not from Catholics, I daresay! And on what basis does he associate them with Mary? Catholic thought makes none of the associations that have been alleged from certain quarters round about here.

As to whether Mary is the "Mother of God": OF COURSE SHE IS. Nobody disputes that, from the simple facts pertaining to any human birth.

At this point, please reflect that Jesus Christ is at once, simultaneously "Perfect God" (the Father's only begotten, deeply beloved Son) and "perfect human" (a truly sinless man). This is the mystery of the Incarnation: Jesus has (note the present tense) a divine Father (whose will was implemented by the Holy Spirit, as conveyed to Mary, and as most humbly and graciously accepted by her — "I am the handmaid of the Lord: Be it done unto me according to Thy Word") and a human mother (Mary herself).

All I can say to skeptical Protties is this: Mary is NOT in any way, shape or form "at war" with her own dearly, deeply beloved Son.

You can believe me or not. That's up to you.

God bless you, dear 1000silverings!

PAX CHRISTI

1,483 posted on 05/03/2010 5:03:15 PM PDT by betty boop (Nil desperandum.)
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To: betty boop

My pastor had a homily about this on the weekend. He wanted to give a talk about the May Crowning in our parish. Being a young guy and internet ready, he put “coronation Mary” into a search. Needless to say, he found the hate sites.

He then said that Mary and Jesus don’t have the egos that they are tiffing up in heaven. Mary doesn’t go to Jesus bragging about May Crowning. There is no one upsmanship from the two of them. She does in heaven what she did on Earth. She adores Him for His love. Even His love for her.


1,486 posted on 05/03/2010 5:14:28 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: betty boop

<++++But from whence did Quix derive this list of titles? Certainly not from Catholics, I daresay! And on what basis does he associate them with Mary? Catholic thought makes none of the associations that have been alleged from certain quarters round about here.+++++

How foolish to accuse someone of lying like that
Below is a portion of the Litany of Loreto, which outlines the various names and titles of our Holy Mother

Holy Mary, pray for us.
Holy Mother of God,
Holy Virgin of virgins,
Mother of Christ,
Mother of the Church,
Mother of divine grace,
Mother most pure,
Mother most chaste,
Mother inviolate,
Mother undefiled,
Mother most amiable,
Mother most admirable,
Mother of good counsel,
Mother of our Creator,
Mother of our Savior,
Virgin most prudent,
Virgin most venerable,
Virgin most renowned,
Virgin most powerful,
Virgin most merciful,
Virgin most faithful,
Mirror of justice,
Seat of wisdom,
Cause of our joy,
Spiritual vessel,
Vessel of honor,
Singular vessel of devotion,
Mystical rose,
Tower of David,
Tower of ivory,
House of gold,
Ark of the covenant,
Gate of heaven,
Morning star,
Health of the sick,
Refuge of sinners,
Comforter of the afflicted,
Help of Christians,
Queen of angels,
Queen of patriarchs,
Queen of prophets,
Queen of apostles,
Queen of martyrs,
Queen of confessors,
Queen of virgins,
Queen of all saints,
Queen conceived without original sin,
Queen assumed into heaven,
Queen of the most holy Rosary,
Queen of families
Queen of peace.

http://www.ourladyweb.com/mary-titles.html

Adam’s Deliverance
Advocate of Eve
Advocate of Sinners
All Chaste
All Fair and Immaculate
All Good
Aqueduct of Grace
Ark Gilded by the Holy Spirit
Ark of the Covenant
Blessed Among Women
Blessed Virgin Mary
Bridal Chamber of the Lord
Bride of Christ
Bride of Heaven
Bride of the Canticle
Bride of the Father
Cause of Our Joy
Chosen Before the Ages
Comfort of Christians
Comforter of the Afflicted
Consoler of the Afflicted
Co-Redemptrix
Court of the Eternal King
Created Temple of the Creator
Crown of Virginity
Daughter of Men
David’s Daughter
Deliverer From All Wrath
Deliverer of Christian Nations
Destroyer of Heresies
Dispenser of Grace
Dwelling Place for God
Dwelling Place of the Spirit
Earth Unsown
Earth Untouched and Virginal
Eastern Gate
Ever Green and Fruitful
Ever Virgin
Exalted Above the Angels
Fleece of Heavenly Rain
Flower of Carmel
Flower of Jesse’s Root
Formed Without Sin
Forthbringer of God
Forthbringer of the Ancient of Days
Forthbringer of the Tree of Life

http://www.crossroadsinitiative.com/library_article/1069/Many_Titles_of_Mary___Meredith_Gould.html

Mary, Mediatrix of All Graces


1,493 posted on 05/03/2010 5:32:52 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: betty boop; Quix; editor-surveyor; Dr. Eckleburg; Alamo-Girl; wmfights; Mad Dawg; metmom; ...
If you "see that sort of thing practically every day" then it must be a common assertion. We aren't contending that Mary is in opposition to her son, but that Catholics are.

Is Mary, as the mother of God, superior to God? Superior to Christ? That does appear to be what some Catholics are proclaiming, leading to her being the queen of Heaven, the first-born of every creature, the spouse of the Holy Spirit and the Advocate between Christ and mankind.

the problem is, these titles are not biblical, they are vanities of men

Furthermore, we have to see Catholics, on this board, refute that Mary is the personal saviorette of mankind or the Christians who post here, cannot take you seriously as fellow Christians.

1,496 posted on 05/03/2010 5:38:24 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: betty boop; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...
Sorry, DEAR SISTER, but you are simply mistaken.

Here's the title:

http://www.amazon.com/Ten-Meditations-Mysteries-Rosary-Ferraro/dp/0819801577/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1272938246&sr=1-2

And it carries the official sanctions of:

ni•hil ob•stat
n.
1. Roman Catholic Church An attestation by a church censor that a book contains nothing damaging to faith or morals.
2. Official approval, especially of an artistic work.

WITH RICHARD CARDINAL CUSHING’S IMPRIMATUR

Let me track down the brief portion of quotes upthread . . .

Here they are:

However, as we've seen through a variety of sources--a pile of them in Ferraro's manual about the Rosary--the Roman Catholic et al/Vatican Edifice disagrees with a lot of the claims of RC's hereon to the contrary.

p.32[Quixicated emphases below]
Mary is crowned Queen of heaven and earth, dispenser of all graces . . .

p32
4 - She became Queen of Purgatory, where she exercises her power as mediatrix in behalf of these suffering souls.

5 - She became Queen of us sinners, to assist us through the dangers of this life and to help us in difficulties.

6 - She became the ruler of hell, that trembles at her slightest gaze and is defeated by her power.

"Just as a rock extracted from earth will precipitate into the abyss, so will man, left without Mary's help, quickly slide toward hell." --Richard of St Victor

p37
Sacred Heart of Jesus, Thy kingdom come; Thy kingdom come through Mary! --Partial Indulgence

p41
"Mary is the tree of life to those who grasp her, and he is happy who hold her fast." --Prov. 3:18

p43
1 - "Hail Mary, beloved daughter of the Father, Mother of the Divine Son, Spouse of the Holy Spirit, complement of the most august Trinity!"

p45
6 - To her was granted grace greater than that conferred upon all others, 'that she might vanquish sin in every respect.' [Qx: I guess Christ's vanquishing sin was unnecessary--or ineffectual without Mary's assistance?]

p46
7 - "Mary is the dawn of God because, just as the dawn marks the end of darkness and the beginning of day, so Mary indicates the end of vices and the beginning of virtue." [Qx: I guess Christ's conquering on The Cross and HIS conquering trip to hell were unncessary?]

9 - God loved Mary so much that He gave her the keys to His heart. 'No one can go to God without Mary drawing him.' [Qx: I guess Holy Spirit has been relegated to a 'Walter Mitty' role as spouse of Mary? That's SOME POWER to cancel & take over HOLY SPIRIT'S role to draw men to God!]

p47
4 - "Mary, trusting in the word of the angel, destroyed the sin Eve committed by trusting in the serpent.' [Qx: Evidently, she beat Christ to the job of vanquishing sin!]

5 - "She desired the safety of everyone, went in search of it, and obtained it; it was also through her that this salvation was wrought." [QX: What an unnecessary waste of precious Blood and suffering on THE CROSS!!!/sar]

p47
10 - "As Noah's Ark saved all the animals that entered it, so Mary saves all the souls that entrust themselves to her care."

p50
8 - "If she were not so holy as she is, how could God appoint her to be the ladder of Paradise, the advocate of the world, meatrix between HIm and us?"

p50
4 - "By becoming Mother of God, Mary belongs to the order of hypostatic union; hence she participates IN the infinite sanctity of God."

Sorry, Betty, but every time I read through this small sample of such stuff from this TREASURED Roman Catholic classic . . . I'm STUNNED at the blatant, barzen idolatry and blasphemy.

As Alamo-Girl says most mildly--"Jeepers."

At some point, words fail me.

1,576 posted on 05/03/2010 7:25:26 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: betty boop

The funny thing is the bile that is wretched out by some folks in regards to the Theotokos.

Why would somebody go and show such grievous disgust about somebody’s mother? Especially if these people wanted to be in good standing with the mother’s son? (Lower case used because that is something that is, to my knowledge, almost universally true...even if the mother was abusive)

Makes no sense. If one shows disrespect toward a man’s mother, one shows disrespect toward the man.

Heb 2:14 Therefore because the children are partakers of flesh and blood, he also himself in like manner has been partaker of the same: that, through death, he might destroy him who had the empire of death, that is to say, the devil: 15 And might deliver them, who through the fear of death were all their lifetime subject to servitude. 16 For nowhere does he take hold of the angels: but of the seed of Abraham he takes hold.


1,582 posted on 05/03/2010 7:33:31 PM PDT by markomalley (Extra Ecclesiam nulla salus)
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