Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. |
Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, I want to be completely transparent with thee, Praying in this way, I can be at rest, |
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Amen Amen Amen!
I see we see the same.
Anywhere as near offensive as your posts to people that they're sending themselves to hell for not following Catholic doctrine?
Probably not.
Dear sister, people who call themselves Born Again have various beliefs NOT united ,it's believe whatever you want Christianity of pluralism
The problem is sf..you refuse to recognize that there is no unity of beliefs among modern Catholics..
There are concrete dogmatic beliefs in Catholicism-those who choose not to follow them are in error,so their modernism puts them outside of the Church if they KNOWINGLY ignore what these teachings are
Hahaha!
Absolutely! I have a plastic St. Earnhardt, Patron Saint of Varoom on my dashboard. Prayers to him keep the car running. /s
Definitely! Let the speed of ye carriages less horse be as free as the wind! Pay honor to ye bootlegger, who kneweth law or restriction not!
Sorry Sorry. :)
You are absolutely right.
And thank you very much for your kind words.
Wrong. They do in practice. Actions speak louder than words.
That virtually ALL the saints Loved and adored Mary, should be an eye-opener.
No on that one as well. Lots of Catholics who aren't saints do the same thing.
Also, that Mary appeared on earth should be of importance to anyone seeking the Truth. Remember, Christ allowed these apparitions!
It's proof of nothing. Apparitions is probably the correct term.
Would He allow His mother to make statements like "I am the Immaculate Conception" if it were not True?
Well, to start with, you have to know for sure that it was Mary. Satan himself can appear as an angel of light. If a being appears to someone and makes a statement that is not Biblically sound, it ought to be suspect. God is NEVER going to contradict His written word and there's NOTHING in Scripture that indicates that Mary was conceived without sin. On the contrary, her own recognition of need for a savior indicates otherwise. The Bible also tells us that all have sinned and fall short of God's glory and that there are none that are righteous.
Besides, Mary didn't need to be conceived without sin. There was no need for it at all.
Protestantism relies on the Bible to determine spiritual truth. What do Catholics use?
Thank you Quix.
If the Maryians cannot see that this is idolatry and blasphemy against Yahweh, then they are purposely not seeing it.
This strikes me as a distinction without a difference. Kekeritomene is a "verbal." I'm guessing perfect passive participle. The distinction of whether the second syllable in English gets a full vowel or a schwa is like unto it. It's what it is grammatically in any case.
The angel was telling Mary she was blessed by God.. It did bot[sic] have to do with HER..it had to do with God
And so the encyclical promulgating the Immaculate Conception says. It's a grace, a gift, it is not hers intrinsically.
The problem arises because our use of "merit" is confusing. The simple way through the confusion is that we think that even merit is a grace.
People devouted thier lives to Christ at Fatima,Athiests became Christians etc... And you call it the work of the devil!
Ridiculous!You scare people away from Christianity by writing such nonsense!
I can’t remember ever seeing anything said from the Romeians on FR that didn’t include the word Mary or Saint or Angel in it. It may include Christ at times, but never is it just Him alone that is getting the attention.
I pray they will post a thread or two dedicated just to Him without even a single post mentioning Mary or Saints or Angels to prove me wrong but I am not holding my breath.
Wow you are right. Not even one.
Yep. Absolutely.
The bigger problem is having people with the spiritual discernment to distinguish the two and considering RCC history, it seems that they're lacking in that area.
The one thing you missed in your comment about miracles, is that it's as likely as not that some of what people claim is just outright fraud to establish the RCC position beyond any reasonable doubt..... for its adherents.
The miracle needs to measured against Scripture to make sure that it doesn't violate it. Then it might be considered valid.
Having a vision or visitation of Mary to make a declaration like about the immaculate conception, to verify a catholic doctrine, is just a little too convenient for comfort.
Having a miracle occur to establish a doctrine which is otherwise unsupportable with Scripture is highly suspect.
Metmom, a myriad of positive, good, miracles flowed from the appearances of Mary. This alone, tells you her apparitions were not of the devil, but of Christ. Satan cannot heal the deaf or give sight to the blind, only Christ can.
And they claim that it all leads to Jesus, but Jesus is hardly the focus of most of their attention.
I have met some Catholics who are very devoted to Jesus and are very vocal about it. They rarely mention Mary and the saints, but for the most part you are right. Never talk about Jesus alone. He’s always added on, almost as an after thought.
Yeah this is it exactly.
Maryians believe that Yah’shua simply could not have been born if it wasn’t for Mary, a human, saying so.
Therefore, what they are really doing in their hearts is stating that man dictates to Yahweh. Man is in charge. Man is supreme.
It’s the old serpent lie.
ψ 115:3 Our God is in heaven. Whatever he wills to do he does.
You fail logic.
Even if the premise were false, and Bible-believing Catholics know it to be true, making a false premise is not an error in logic. There's an important and neglected difference between false and fallacious and between proposition and logic.
And God is NOT a respecter of persons.
So star differs from star in glory, but God can't tell them apart? He gives one ten talents and then ten talents more and to another he gives less, and He can't tell the difference?
He indeed is not a respecter of persons if by respecter of persons one means someone who takes into consideration social or political standing or wealth. And this is the meaning in the context in which the phrase is used.
To say, however that God does not give different gifts in differing amounts to different of his redeemed is supported neither by Scripture nor by experience.
Agreed.
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