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Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]
Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix

GIVE IT ALL TO . . . ? . . . .

--A Research Thread--

. . .

.

7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this:

Our Father in heaven,
may your name be kept holy.
10 May your Kingdom come soon.
May your will be done on earth,
as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today the food we need,[a]
12 and forgive us our sins,
as we have forgiven those who sin against us.
13 And don’t let us yield to temptation,[b]
but rescue us from the evil one.[c]

--New Living Translation

7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.]

8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.

9Pray, therefore, like this:

Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed (kept holy) be Your name.
10Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven ([e]left, remitted, and let go of the debts, and have [f]given up resentment against) our debtors.
13And lead (bring) us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

14For if you forgive people their trespasses [their [g]reckless and willful sins, [h]leaving them, letting them go, and [i]giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses.

--Amplified

Pray with Simplicity

5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat?

6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace.

7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best— as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

14-15"In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can't get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God's part.

16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well.
--THE MESSAGE

Mark Kirby:

O Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Perpetual Help,
I turn with confidence to thy maternal Heart,
and I renew my total and irrevocable consecration to thee.

I am all thine, Most Holy Mary,
and all that I have is thine.
I give thee my past with its burdens.
I give thee this present moment with its anxieties and fears.
I give thee my future and all that it holds.

There is no part of my life that is not open to thee,
no place so secret, or so darkened by sin
that thy presence and thy influence
are not wholly and ardently desired there.

I want to be completely transparent with thee,
utterly simple, guileless, and childlike.
Thou knowest, O Mother,
all my preoccupations,
all my intentions,
and all those recommended to my prayer.
Take them, I beseech thee, to thy Immaculate Heart
and, as my Advocate, my all-powerful intercessor, and my Mediatrix,
present them to thy Son.
Seeing them presented by thee
and held in thy maternal Heart,
there is nothing that He will not do
to give to each intention the one response
worthy of the infinite mercy and love of His Sacred Heart.

Praying in this way, I can be at rest,
for thou art my Mother,
and all that I entrust to thee will be,
I am sure,
received, and considered, and cared for
with a Mother's love.
Amen.

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TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; exclusivity; focus; holiness; marybashing; worship
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To: Quix
Amen. Great post.

As Christ emphasized and Paul in Galatians emphasizes--IT WON'T WASH BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD.

Precisely.

41 posted on 04/30/2010 10:40:34 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: mlizzy; Religion Moderator; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; ...
Take a Pacific Ocean worth of umbrage until the cows come home, if you wish.

IF

ANYONE

fantasizes

that they are going to
PRESSURE
ME
INTO VIOLATING GOD'S WORD,
willfully, knowingly,

THEY

need to trade their brain
in on a new one as
their old one is beyond overhaul.

What brazen, shocking affrontery to the plain WORD OF GOD! Sheesh. God have mercy.

42 posted on 04/30/2010 10:44:22 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

If that’s the kind of theology he puts out,

FLAPDOODLE would be an improvement.


43 posted on 04/30/2010 10:45:13 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: roamer_1

“Joh 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.” - Jesus Christ, The Lion of Judah, King of Kings.

- - -

INDEED.

Did you get a copy of Ferraro’s book, too?


44 posted on 04/30/2010 10:46:16 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mlizzy; Quix

Matthew 23:9 “Do not call anyone on earth your father; for One is your Father, He who is in heaven.

Those are Jesus own words right there, straight out of the Gospels.

The man’s given name is Mark Kirby.


45 posted on 04/30/2010 10:46:21 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: mlizzy

Which word did you not understand?


46 posted on 04/30/2010 10:46:35 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: mlizzy

NO hate of Roman Catholics et al, at all.

not a microgram’s worth.

I realize ya’ll’s rubber dictionary has

“hate” as the daffynition of DISAGREE

but the rest of the English Speaking World

does NOT.


47 posted on 04/30/2010 10:47:50 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Wellllllllllllll

harumph

and a crate of raspberries to you!

You like red ones or blackcaps?

LOL


48 posted on 04/30/2010 10:48:40 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Roman Catholic apologists have put her in competition with Christ

I can't "put her" anywhere but where she is. I don't have the power to rearrange heaven like that.

49 posted on 04/30/2010 10:49:16 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: Quix

Exodus 20:

1 And God spoke all these words:

2 “I am the LORD your God, who brought you out of Egypt, out of the land of slavery.

3 “You shall have no other gods before me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself an idol in the form of anything in heaven above or on the earth beneath or in the waters below.

5 You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the LORD your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the fathers to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, 6 but showing love to a thousand {generations} of those who love me and keep my commandments.


50 posted on 04/30/2010 10:49:36 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

lol, I’m allergic to raspberries, so bake me up a big pie of’em


51 posted on 04/30/2010 10:50:02 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: mlizzy
I take umbrage in Quix's refusal to refer to the man whose words he has quoted to create this post, incorrectly, for the express purpose of being disrespectful to the Roman Catholic Church.

I take umbrage that you would try to force upon anyone a title which is specifically taught against in Scripture.

52 posted on 04/30/2010 10:50:17 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Campion

Why do Catholics pray to her? Don’t they think they can take their requests to God?

Or do they think that they can get from her what they can’t get from God?

If they’re not getting it from God, why would Mary cross God’s will and give it to them anyway?


53 posted on 04/30/2010 10:51:32 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: 1000 silverlings
If she said”Do whatever he tells you”, then why don’t you? Jesus taught the disciples how to pray in the Lord’s prayer

Well, we certainly do that.

and there’s no praying to Mary, saints, angels, dead people or anyone else but God the Father

You just wrecked your own argument with the last one, unless you are prepared to argue that prayer to the Son or to the Holy Spirit is idolatrous. (And if prayer to the Son is idolatrous, then explain it to Stephen in Acts.)

54 posted on 04/30/2010 10:51:38 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Photobucket This is NOT "hate" for Father Flapdoodle nor for any Roman Catholic. This is love of the truth and a desire for that truth to be spoken and heard and understood. Read your Bible, and you, too, can know the truth, God willing.

I *do* read His Word daily at Mass. If you were a loving Christian, you would live your life well in the arms of Christ, instead of bashing those who love the Catholic faith. This post is such a knife to the heart of Mary and her Son; if you only knew, you'd immediately apologize to the both of them.
55 posted on 04/30/2010 10:51:58 AM PDT by mlizzy ("Do not wait for leaders; do it alone, person to person" --Mother Teresa.)
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To: mlizzy; Quix
for the express purpose of being disrespectful to the Roman Catholic Church.

That's mind-reading

56 posted on 04/30/2010 10:51:59 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: metmom
Why do Catholics pray to her? Don’t they think they can take their requests to God?

Why does Paul ask people to pray for him? Doesn't he think he can take his own requests to God?

57 posted on 04/30/2010 10:52:54 AM PDT by Campion ("President Barack Obama" is an anagram for "An Arab-backed imposter")
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To: Quix
Did you get a copy of Ferraro’s book, too?

Nope. I have to "make do" with the Word of Almighty God. But then, it always seems to be far more than enough.

: P

58 posted on 04/30/2010 10:53:12 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Campion; Dr. Eckleburg; Quix

Jesus is God, even so, we pray in “Jesus’ name”. You can’t wiggle out of that one, you act contrary to the words of Mary herself, let alone Christ’s.


59 posted on 04/30/2010 10:54:06 AM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Campion; 1000 silverlings

It’s not idolatrous because Jesus is God himself.

Mary isn’t.


60 posted on 04/30/2010 10:54:19 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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