Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix
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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this: Our Father in heaven, --New Living Translation 7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.] 8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him. 9Pray, therefore, like this: 15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses. --Amplified Pray with Simplicity 5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat? 6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace. 7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this: 16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well. |
Mark Kirby: O Mother of Good Counsel, I am all thine, Most Holy Mary, There is no part of my life that is not open to thee, I want to be completely transparent with thee, Praying in this way, I can be at rest, |
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>>It is such a great skill ..My son is an engineer and one of his professors commented on the number of engineering students that played instruments ..There is a definite math connection with music<<
That one wants to be an Electrical Engineer like her Godfather! She is nearly four years ahead in math. She helps her older sister (and mom) with Algebra.
It’s my prayer tonight that your lengthy work of spiritual mercy be fruitful. Well, first I’ll pray that it’s read, then that it is fruitful.
Beautifully written, BTW.
PRAISE GOD FOR YOUR RETRIEVED OR HEALED SIGHT.
There is no me in the Greek in verse 14. It is translated, "If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it."
The import of the discussion is Jesus is our entre to the Father for the Father's glory and in verse 16 it is Christ who is praying for the sending of the Holy Spirit.
13 And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name, that will I do, that the Father may be glorified in the Son.
16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
How very pleasant it must be to come up with an excuse for venting hostility and anger and for being unnecessarily rude? "I'm doing it all in obedience to the Lord of Love."
I think that the injunction to be subtle as serpents and gentle as doves is less palatable when it comes to mugging people across religious lines. It provides less cover to behavior which would lead to fisticuffs if it were face-to-face.
When someone can present the proof that a certain thing is believed then it is hard to call them liars..you may not like what they say, you may disagree with what they say but that does not mean it is not true.
Since I have been careful to leave ignorance or other incapacity whenever I mention falsehood, I don't see how this observation applies to be. It's true enough, but so what?
I have to agree with metmon when she aid that Catholics will say “we do not believe this or that.”.but never say where they disagree.
I don't understand this. I will say that when I've been told I use a rubber dictionary enough times, I decide the well is poisoned and I tend to quiet down. What's the point if every time a distinction is drawn which is unfamiliar to the reader he raises the objection of a rubber dictionary?
When Quix posts a list of Marys titles and there is silence we must assume that they are Marys titles
Must we indeed? And must we also assume that since we haven't thought about them, therefore we know they are wrong? What a funny, if drab, world we live in!
Since I answered Quix's post someone else posted some huge list. My only comment at this point is a caution: Willed ignorance is culpable.
RnMomof7 is very much on our side on “non-Catholic” issues like abortion, euthanasia and homosexuality.
That is no surprise.. Good girl with big math centered dreams..
The music will help..I think you use the same part of the brain for math that you use for music..
I can tell you, from personal experience , singing off key does not help with math though
She had no original sin, no sin nature, she never sinned .. so why would she need a Savior.. keeping the law perfectly saves.. the problem is no man has ever kept the law perfectly but Christ. The innocent dying for the guilty,
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—DOUBLE SPEAK;
—DOUBLE STANDARDS;
—BOTH SIDES OF FINGERS;
—BOTH SIDES OF MOUTHS;
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What a pattern to have to defend at The Judgment.
I do notice, however, how you evaded answering any of those questions.
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EVASION, AVOIDANCE, DOUBLE STANDARDS AND DENIAL
. . . I think those are more . . .
ritualized, dogmatic, customary, well-taught, trained and practiced
STATIONS OF THE WHITE HANKY.
AMEN! AMEN!
WE have been over this before.
The best hospitals sometimes have higher death rates than the so-so hospitals. Do I need to say more?
>>I can tell you, from personal experience , singing off key does not help with math though<<
Oh I know that from personal experience!
Thank you. It’s like trying to do needle point in an artillery barrage.
Some folks have a habit of trying to
squeeze blood out of a turnip;
demand ambrosia from a rock;
sweet wine from their own vinegar spewing;
melodious singing from twisting others’ noses.
As near as I can guess, it must come from some odd emotional/psycho-dynamic obsession with
perhaps a kind of compulsion to be cold and prickly; obstinate, mean-spiritedly harshly assaultive and obnoxious whenever the least bit of opportunity to be so can be created and foisted on others.
Some rabid clique sorts seem to be more afflicted with the habitual obsession than others.
I’ve prayed earnestly about a solution or even a cure but have received nothing that seems to be the least bit redemptive for such habits, . . . so far.
Even fiesty humor responses mildly in kind seem to do not the least bit of good.
I grieve from time to time that the whole
BEING BROKEN BREAD AND POURED OUT WINE FOR ONE ANOTHER AND FOR A HURTING WORLD
IN BEHALF OF OUR SAVIOR WHO IS
SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
INFINITELY WORTHY . . .
OF OUR ALL
. . . THAT SUCH IS SOOOOOOOOOO UNDERVALUED BY FAR TOO HIGH A PERCENTAGE OF “CHRISTIANS.”
Thanks for your kind reply.
Oh, because I keep thinking that even the angry have the capacity for clear thought. Because I told you I had the opposite experience. Because insisting on one's own experience being normative is immature.
It's like the person from a broken home who concludes that matrimony is bunk, or the person from an alcoholic background who decides that alcohol is bad. It's careless thought.
This is your thread Quix, but I issue a challenge to every Catholic, posting here and reading here, to come forward and assert, here and now that Mary is NOT their personal saviorette.
1. I have spelled out my BELIEFS many dozens of times hereon. Probably SOME of the rabid clique Papist bigot sorts could summarize my beliefs almost as well as I could.
2. I have even given a fair description of my congregation.
3. I will not give a specific designation of my congregation as that would be unwise, foolhardy and dangerous given all the things I've said against Islam.
4. I realize that some folks who've emphasized privately how much they loathe and "despise" me would, evidently, be happy for the radical Muslims to bomb our congregation with me there. However, I don't plan to make that easier for them to do regardless of how many rants from how many rabid clique Roman Catholics et al !!!!DEMAND!!!! that I comply with their sensibilities to make it easy for the Islamists.
5. I haven't, to my recollections, unfittingly shared confidential information. I rebuke such inferences that I have.
Enough of this outrageous relentless !!!!DEMAND!!!! junk. I guess some folks need to get a life.
Please don't resent the time you spent in your comments. Yours' have helped me realize that not all Roman Catholics are lost - and I mean that respectfully. Through your posts and a few others, I see that some really DO understand the Gospel. I came from a Roman Catholic background - the whole nine yards - and did not believe in Jesus Christ in the way that would save me from eternal condemnation. This has given me hope that some of my loved ones also - in their hearts - have saving knowledge of Jesus Christ. They may not "say" it the same way or use the same terms, but they believe that Jesus died on the cross for their sins and that they are saved by grace through faith.
Your posts are refreshing in their depth of thought and your patience, so far, is a good example to us all.
THERE YA GO AGAIN
trying to be logical, factual and reality based.
Fine with me. Just so you realize the other side can’t manage such things.
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