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Give Your All To . . . ? . . . . [A Rel Forum Research thread--Open]
Bible, Vultus Christi, Quix's noggin ^ | 28 APR 2010; 30 APR 2010 | Jesus, Mark Kirby & Quix

Posted on 04/30/2010 8:03:48 AM PDT by Quix

GIVE IT ALL TO . . . ? . . . .

--A Research Thread--

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7 “When you pray, don’t babble on and on as people of other religions do. They think their prayers are answered merely by repeating their words again and again. 8 Don’t be like them, for your Father knows exactly what you need even before you ask him! 9 Pray like this:

Our Father in heaven,
may your name be kept holy.
10 May your Kingdom come soon.
May your will be done on earth,
as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today the food we need,[a]
12 and forgive us our sins,
as we have forgiven those who sin against us.
13 And don’t let us yield to temptation,[b]
but rescue us from the evil one.[c]

--New Living Translation

7And when you pray, do not heap up phrases (multiply words, repeating the same ones over and over) as the Gentiles do, for they think they will be heard for their much speaking. [I Kings 18:25-29.]

8Do not be like them, for your Father knows what you need before you ask Him.

9Pray, therefore, like this:

Our Father Who is in heaven, hallowed (kept holy) be Your name.
10Your kingdom come, Your will be done on earth as it is in heaven.
11Give us this day our daily bread.
12And forgive us our debts, as we also have forgiven ([e]left, remitted, and let go of the debts, and have [f]given up resentment against) our debtors.
13And lead (bring) us not into temptation, but deliver us from the evil one. For Yours is the kingdom and the power and the glory forever. Amen.

14For if you forgive people their trespasses [their [g]reckless and willful sins, [h]leaving them, letting them go, and [i]giving up resentment], your heavenly Father will also forgive you.

15But if you do not forgive others their trespasses [their [j]reckless and willful sins, [k]leaving them, letting them go, and [l]giving up resentment], neither will your Father forgive you your trespasses.

--Amplified

Pray with Simplicity

5"And when you come before God, don't turn that into a theatrical production either. All these people making a regular show out of their prayers, hoping for stardom! Do you think God sits in a box seat?

6"Here's what I want you to do: Find a quiet, secluded place so you won't be tempted to role-play before God. Just be there as simply and honestly as you can manage. The focus will shift from you to God, and you will begin to sense his grace.

7-13"The world is full of so-called prayer warriors who are prayer-ignorant. They're full of formulas and programs and advice, peddling techniques for getting what you want from God. Don't fall for that nonsense. This is your Father you are dealing with, and he knows better than you what you need. With a God like this loving you, you can pray very simply. Like this:

Our Father in heaven,
Reveal who you are.
Set the world right;
Do what's best— as above, so below.
Keep us alive with three square meals.
Keep us forgiven with you and forgiving others.
Keep us safe from ourselves and the Devil.
You're in charge!
You can do anything you want!
You're ablaze in beauty!
Yes. Yes. Yes.

14-15"In prayer there is a connection between what God does and what you do. You can't get forgiveness from God, for instance, without also forgiving others. If you refuse to do your part, you cut yourself off from God's part.

16-18"When you practice some appetite-denying discipline to better concentrate on God, don't make a production out of it. It might turn you into a small-time celebrity but it won't make you a saint. If you 'go into training' inwardly, act normal outwardly. Shampoo and comb your hair, brush your teeth, wash your face. God doesn't require attention-getting devices. He won't overlook what you are doing; he'll reward you well.
--THE MESSAGE

Mark Kirby:

O Mother of Good Counsel,
Mother of Perpetual Help,
I turn with confidence to thy maternal Heart,
and I renew my total and irrevocable consecration to thee.

I am all thine, Most Holy Mary,
and all that I have is thine.
I give thee my past with its burdens.
I give thee this present moment with its anxieties and fears.
I give thee my future and all that it holds.

There is no part of my life that is not open to thee,
no place so secret, or so darkened by sin
that thy presence and thy influence
are not wholly and ardently desired there.

I want to be completely transparent with thee,
utterly simple, guileless, and childlike.
Thou knowest, O Mother,
all my preoccupations,
all my intentions,
and all those recommended to my prayer.
Take them, I beseech thee, to thy Immaculate Heart
and, as my Advocate, my all-powerful intercessor, and my Mediatrix,
present them to thy Son.
Seeing them presented by thee
and held in thy maternal Heart,
there is nothing that He will not do
to give to each intention the one response
worthy of the infinite mercy and love of His Sacred Heart.

Praying in this way, I can be at rest,
for thou art my Mother,
and all that I entrust to thee will be,
I am sure,
received, and considered, and cared for
with a Mother's love.
Amen.

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TOPICS: Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Theology; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholicbashing; exclusivity; focus; holiness; marybashing; worship
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Yep. And it is exactly that internal conflict which produces anger and frustration and foot-stomping and empty accusations of “hate-mongering” and “bigotry.

More from Isaiah 44...

“Thus saith the LORD, thy redeemer, and he that formed thee from the womb, I am the LORD that maketh all things; that stretcheth forth the heavens alone; that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself;

That frustrateth the tokens of the liars, and maketh diviners mad; that turneth wise men backward, and maketh their knowledge foolish” — Isaiah 44:24-25

= = =

Soberingly true.

Thx.


1,321 posted on 05/03/2010 2:13:55 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: 1000 silverlings

It seems there is some confusion as to what the “gospel” is. It is the “good news of Jesus Christ as our personal Savior”, in which case everyone here is preaching it, as opposed to the doctrine of Mary as others’ personal saviorette. As Dr. E says, it’s not just the books of Matthew, Mark, Luke and John

= = =

INDEED.


1,322 posted on 05/03/2010 2:14:31 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: 1000 silverlings

Do you have the same beliefs as the Southern Baptist Convention? American Baptist?


1,323 posted on 05/03/2010 2:14:45 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: netmilsmom; editor-surveyor

He signed the Declaration, right? I mean, what is editor-surveyor saying, Catholics were illegal when the country was founded?


1,324 posted on 05/03/2010 2:16:34 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: Judith Anne

The only doctrinal differences I have with them is in eschatology . As for the truth of the bible, no


1,325 posted on 05/03/2010 2:17:10 PM PDT by 1000 silverlings (everything that deceives, also enchants: Plato)
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To: Quix

What’s your denomination, quix? The ABC? (Anything But Catholic)


1,326 posted on 05/03/2010 2:17:45 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: 1000 silverlings
See there, old Moses was a snake handler from way back, no need to feel insulted anymore

LOL!! :P

1,327 posted on 05/03/2010 2:18:48 PM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just Socialism in a business suit)
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To: Quix

It’s all what motive one sticks onto the person’s actions.

The government demonized the Hutaree here in MI. The Obama administration sees them as evil. We here in MI see them as guys running around in the woods shooting at trees.

In the same way, I see someone praying the rosary as the way I pray.

People who don’t like Catholic teachings see them another. What matters is not what I see or what another sees. It only matters what God sees.


1,328 posted on 05/03/2010 2:18:53 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Judith Anne

>>He signed the Declaration, right?<<

Sure did!
So who broke the law by letting that “Papist” in?


1,329 posted on 05/03/2010 2:20:07 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: Lorica
"Evangelizing" from the negative is the modus operandi of the FReformed. It's not what the Reformed can offer, but only what the Reformed despises, which offers subjective bias; not objective truth.

What is truth?

John 17:8 For I have given unto them the words which thou gavest me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came out from thee, and they have believed that thou didst send me.
John 17:14 I have given them thy word; and the world hath hated them, because they are not of the world, even as I am not of the world. 15 I pray not that thou shouldest take them out of the world, but that thou shouldest keep them from the evil.
16 They are not of the world, even as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
18 As thou hast sent me into the world, even so have I also sent them into the world.
19 And for their sakes I sanctify myself, that they also might be sanctified through the truth.
20 Neither pray I for these alone,but for them also which shall believe on me through thy word;
21 That they all may be one; as thou, Father, art in me, and I in thee, that they also may be one in us: that the world may believe that thou hast sent me.

1,330 posted on 05/03/2010 2:20:09 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: wagglebee

Thats cause they can’t....seee I warned ya :)


1,331 posted on 05/03/2010 2:21:18 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: boatbums; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...
It seems the FReformed exist for the sole purpose of proving Catholicism wrong.

And what I observe is some, though not all, thankfully, Roman Catholic Freepers do little more than condemn, disparage, mock, belittle and look down the nose at anyone who is NOT Roman Catholic and kowtow to ALL that has been deemed DOGMA.

It seems that no matter what the topic at hand, some are unable to defend their point and stand on it but instead go to the next step and drag out the tired, ragged, ANCIENT condemnations of "heretic", "bigot", "hater", "anti-". How childish!

Here's a personal opinion - everybody take off your "martyr" hats when you come to the RF or stick to the devotional or caucus posts.

INDEED TO THE MAX!

1,332 posted on 05/03/2010 2:22:08 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: netmilsmom; editor-surveyor

It’s entirely possible that ES made a very interesting error.


1,333 posted on 05/03/2010 2:22:30 PM PDT by Judith Anne
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To: All

My darling Catholic girls are about to finish their practice of French Horn and Flute outside and I must grill us some dinner dogs, so while this has all been fun, gotta go.

God Bless all of you. If you don’t mind Catholic prayers. If you do, just ignore that.


1,334 posted on 05/03/2010 2:24:06 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: wagglebee; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Among these lost souls I would include those with a proclivty for doing things like fabricating falsehoods.

= = =

WOW,

That would flush a LOT of Rabid Clique sorts of Roman Catholics et al.


1,335 posted on 05/03/2010 2:24:17 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Judith Anne

Wishful thinking?


1,336 posted on 05/03/2010 2:24:34 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: RnMomof7

INDEED.

CHRIST AND

HIM

CRUCIFIED . . .

None of this

“Mary’s soul was crucified on Calvary along with her Son.”

Sheesh.


1,337 posted on 05/03/2010 2:25:35 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: netmilsmom

IIRC, I was responding to the text involved. I hadn’t bothered to track down the author of the text.

I may have assumed wrongly.

If so, sorry.


1,338 posted on 05/03/2010 2:26:30 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

:-)


1,339 posted on 05/03/2010 2:27:00 PM PDT by netmilsmom (I am Ilk)
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To: RnMomof7

Good point.


1,340 posted on 05/03/2010 2:27:27 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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