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To: TaraP; xjcsa; Genoa; Quix
Hi and thanks for the ping ...

You were saying ...

I’m not sure..

Well, you were answering someone else who asked when the 7 years started. Apparently, from this article, he (or she) is saying that this 7-year period of the Tribulation started on January 1, 2007.

This is the part that I read that said this ...

Joveir Solana, whose office was Secretary General of the Western European Union, made separate agreements with many Middle Eastern countries over several years prior to 2007. These agreements would give each country the right to receive loans from the EU for the purpose of bringing stability in many areas of their governments. These loans would require substantial financial commitments from EU full member states and therefore had to be fixed into the EU upcoming budget. The term of the EU budget is 7 years and was due for renewal on Jan. 01/2007.

On this date Jovier Solana made a quick trip to the required office and gave his signature 'confirming' the agreements that he had set up prior to this date and therefore fulfilled all of the requirements that are called for in Daniel 9:26,27.

Well, the first thing I would want to know from this writer would be

"Why have you waited for over three years before telling us this?"

But, you're gonna have a problem finding out the answer for this question, since the author is "Anonymous"... (which always inspires confidence for some writer being a good authority on some subject ... LOL ...).

I'm presuming that this writer just "discovered" this "interpretation" recently -- which then caused him (or her) to drop it into some website that accepts anonymous writers for the public to read.

Heck, we can't even trace back any articles that he's written on this one website, much less trace back his other "prognostications" that he's made over the last 30 years. For all I know, he blasts out a new version of his "predictions" using "anonymous" as an author and does so every three months... hoping that one of them will "hit" paydirt... LOL ...

Except in this case, he's three years "late" on the "call" for this item.

Those are my first thoughts on the matter, before going too much further.


Please ST, can you assist on this one?

I would be glad to "weigh in" on it from the same perspective that I always give in all these kinds of matters. And anyone who has read my posts before already knows it.

Just for sake of clarifying that here, it's Dispensational, Pre-Millennial, and Pre-Tribulational (in eschatology). So, that's how I am approaching these things -- and thus, when I comment on it, it's from that perspective.

And if anyone would disagree with what I'm saying, they're just going to be disagreeing with that particular eschatology, more than anything else.

And so..., the first thing I would say is that this author, by waiting for three years before saying anything about this event over three years ago -- has provided one very easy way to verify his understanding of it -- since we're approaching very quickly the 3-1/2 year mark -- at which time the sacrifices in the Temple are stopped and the Antichrist declares himself to be god.

So, one could say, "Just wait until the 42 month mark and see if it happens." and that will do it.

BUT, the problem is -- "There's no Temple there right now, or sacrifices going on."

I would say that a real big problem -- right off the bat -- in that there is no Temple. I can't see a Temple getting built in a couple of months, sacrifices started and then a few days later, the sacrifices stopped.... :-)

Furthermore, I don't think anyone knows who the Antichrist is -- who is the one who is supposed to be doing this -- standing the Temple declaring himself to be God.

Wouldn't that present a sort of big problem, in that no one knows who the Antichrist is and there's no Temple there and there's no sacrifices going on -- and -- we have only a couple or so months left before this is supposed to happen??

Someone might think this article was written on April 1, rather than the date it was written ... :-)

The bottom line is that this viewpoint that is presented, besides being three years late and having nothing "lined up" at the present time -- that is supposed to be happening -- it's simply not the Dispensational, Pre-Millennial and Pre-Tribulational eschatology that is taught and preached on and presented by many scholars, pastors, teachers and seminaries, from what they see being presented to us in the Word of God.

You can say that much about it -- or rather -- what it isn't... if anything ... :-)

I can go more into it from things that are said in the article, but I've got to run right now and sell a puppy (someone is coming over ... be back later...).

112 posted on 04/19/2010 3:40:45 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Star Traveler

Would it fit with a post-tribulational model? (Best wishes concerning the puppy.)


116 posted on 04/19/2010 3:47:53 PM PDT by Genoa (Luke 12:2)
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To: Star Traveler

Which brings up a litany of other problems.

If the GT began in 2007, then we are no longer in the Church Age and the GT is going to be the least of problems for those who have been left behind.

Next, why are they teaching this? If we are no longer in the Church Age, then there is no more need for teaching, because His Word is written in our hearts and minds, no more need for teaching.

Next, this implies there are ongoing events the likes of which the world has never seen nor endured. Don’t think so.

IMHO, it’s a great opportunity to return to Him and study His Word through faith in Him, so that we might be properly prepared when we find ourselves at the right place and right time to perform per His Plan as we are all to bear our own cross, just as our Lord and Savior Christ Jesus bore His in obedience to the Father and provided by the power of God the Holy Spirit.


118 posted on 04/19/2010 3:52:01 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Star Traveler

Hi ST!

Thanks for weighing in, I am just wondering if this could happen without many Christians knowing?

I know GOD is our Sheild during these times, but can that also mean *un-knowing* Will we know who the Antichrist is, while we are still on earth? OR will the Antichrist be revealed in a secret manner?


119 posted on 04/19/2010 3:54:43 PM PDT by TaraP (He never offered our victories without fighting but he said help would always come in time)
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To: Star Traveler

Good points, imho.

Thx.


144 posted on 04/19/2010 4:41:08 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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