Also, as we OBSERVE *MANY* Roman Catholics et al vis a vis their crucifixes . . . there seems to be a tailisman/magical attitude toward themwhich Prottys find idolatrous. Certainly SOME [seems to me a minority percentage-wise] Prottys have a SIMILAR magical attitude toward their cross jewelry (USUALLY, even then, such attitudes do not seem to be quite as intense on the part of MOST Prottys). MOST PROTTYS just relate to such jewelry crosses as an advertisement of their relationship with Christwhich is something quite different in purpose, feeling and attitude. I think the empty crosses Prottys use are, for us, more like an empty tomb advertisement as well as a reminder of the cost Christ paid and to crucify our flesh daily. Most Prottys dont likely think of all that very often even when looking at such a cross. They just relate to it as a simple advertisement of their Christianity. Yes, you protties are perfect. I've understood that ever since I started participating on the RF. Everything you do is right in your own eyes. Everything Catholics do is wicked. Thanks for the reminder, though. /dripping sarcasm