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To: Mad Dawg

And this necessarily has an eschatological side - we proclaim Christ’s death until he comes again - in that the transformation in us is a process which will be brought to completion for the vast majority of us only at the consummation.

When we offer the bread and wine, when we offer the body and blood of Christ, we are essentially tied up to that offering. We are members of the body which was offered on Calvary.

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I essentially agree.

CERTAINLY HE has to do all that, effect all that . . . the flesh, the carnal flesh in and of itself is only death.

HE ALONE IS RESURRECTION LIFE—IN US, IN THE WORLD, IN CREATION.

imho.

[donning haz mat suit as I type. Prottys are great at shredding our own. One of our ‘extra’ RELIGIOUS ‘skills.’]

LOL.


2,505 posted on 04/28/2010 7:31:21 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix; stfassisi
CERTAINLY HE has to do all that, effect all that . . . the flesh, the carnal flesh in and of itself is only death.

HE ALONE IS RESURRECTION LIFE—IN US, IN THE WORLD, IN CREATION.

This is, IMHO, the key to Paul.

In Adam and Eve we turned our back on the source of the spirit which made us living souls. We have been dying every since, dying spiritually and physically.

In Christ, into whom we are grafted by the Spirit, by the instrumentality of Baptism, that dying is in principle accomplished. And in Christ we are given His Spirit. So now such life as is in us is not ours but His.

And between now and our 'falling asleep' it is all the old man dying and the new man coming to life. The travail of which Paul speaks in Romans is OUR being born, and what feel like death agonies are really birth pangs.

@ SFA: Sheen really was remarkable.

2,515 posted on 04/28/2010 7:50:35 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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