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To: wagglebee; metmom; 1000 silverlings; Quix; count-your-change; Alex Murphy; Gamecock; wmfights; ...
What does saying the Hail Mary have to do with clerical sexual abuse? NOTHING.

What does the canon of saints have to doe with clerical sexual abuse? NOTHING.

What does a person's opinion of the epistles of Saint Paul have to do with clerical sexual abuse? NOTHING.

There was a time when I might have agreed with you. But after reading these many threads and comments over the years on FR, it's become clear that at the heart of Rome's error is its elevation of men to the status belonging to God alone.

The priest is not "another Christ."

Mary is not a "co-redeemer."

Dead saints now in heaven are not "mediators between God and men."

And all of this is made known to us in Scripture, particularly in the teachings of Paul which RC apologists on this thread have rebuked.

Thus when RC apologists accept these erroneous, anti-Scriptural suppositions as fact, they leave themselves vulnerable to ignoring, excusing, defending and/or denying the obvious sins of the pederast priest and the papal bureaucracy that hides it.

2,368 posted on 04/27/2010 2:41:05 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I thought I had made this clear before, but perhaps you didn’t understand me; I could really care less what you think about anything, if I had been interested in your opinion I would have pinged you.


2,377 posted on 04/27/2010 3:15:53 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

There was a time when I might have agreed with you. But after reading these many threads and comments over the years on FR, it’s become clear that at the heart of Rome’s error is its elevation of men to the status belonging to God alone.

The priest is not “another Christ.”

Mary is not a “co-redeemer.”

Dead saints now in heaven are not “mediators between God and men.”

And all of this is made known to us in Scripture, particularly in the teachings of Paul which RC apologists on this thread have rebuked.

Thus when RC apologists accept these erroneous, anti-Scriptural suppositions as fact, they leave themselves vulnerable to ignoring, excusing, defending and/or denying the obvious sins of the pederast priest and the papal bureaucracy that hides it.

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INDEED.

I was MUCH more compassionate, consciliatory, understanding and forgiving toward the whole Vatican institution before I read sooooooooooooooooo MUCH and soooooooooooo OUTRAGEOUS a bunch of stuff hereon about what they believe, why and what they practice.

I was initially quite shocked. Then grieved. Now, it’s kind of a troublesome duty to help lurkers realize at least some degree of the outrageousness involved.


2,402 posted on 04/27/2010 4:28:26 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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