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Nifonging the Catholic Church
me ^ | April 18, 2010 | vanity

Posted on 04/18/2010 9:49:35 PM PDT by Judith Anne

I seriously wonder about some FReepers, sometimes. Any other person accused of a crime would be defended by every FReeper as being innocent until proven guilty by a court of law. I've seen whole threads written by men who have been accused of child abuse by ex-wives out to deny them their visitation rights or to wrest more money out of them. These men are rightly indignant, and furious about the unjust accusations that cannot be proven but are never withdrawn.

Yet where are those FReepers when a PRIEST is accused? Where is the presumption of innocence? Suddenly, every accusation becomes a verdict, and not only the accused but his entire organization and all its adherents are held responsible.

I can only wonder what some of these so-called conservatives (who so faithfully defend the Constitution) would do, if THEY were the ones accused! It is a nightmare for any man -- all of you know how even the accusation stains the man forever, even if it is proven false!

Not only that, many here assert that the problems of 30, 40 and even 50 years ago must be tried in the media TODAY!

Remember the Duke rape case? There are more similarities than differences here. The priests are accused, nifonged, and instead of being defended, they are vilified!

What other man of you could stand under the weight of such an accusation trumpeted by the press, and come out whole? None! And such accusations made, LONG after the statute of limitations has passed, sometimes even after the accused is dead and buried for YEARS -- are YOU one of those who automatically, reflexively, spitefully, and gleefully act as judge, jury, and executioner?

Women! What if it were YOUR HUSBAND, YOUR BROTHER, YOUR FATHER, YOUR UNCLE, YOUR SON who was accused? Wouldn't you want the best defense possible? Wouldn't YOU believe in their innocence? Wouldn't YOU help protect your loved ones as much as possible? And yet, YOU JUDGE THE CHURCH FOR DOING WHAT YOU WOULD DO?

Shame! Vast shame! On all who have sinned against the innocent!


TOPICS: Catholic; Ministry/Outreach; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: denialnotrivernegypt; excuses; falseaccusations; koolaidcatholics; moralrot; moredeflection; nifong
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To: Natural Law; Alex Murphy
Alex, If I had wanted or valued your opinion on this matter I would have asked you for it.

Post a comment on the open forum and expect a response on the open forum.

2,581 posted on 04/28/2010 9:40:46 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

OPEN?

OPEN FORUM?

Hmmmmm . . .

Perhaps that’s not a street 2 yr old closed minds should be playing in the middle of.


2,583 posted on 04/28/2010 9:42:00 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Natural Law; Dr. Eckleburg

“RC” is just an abbreviation, just like “OPC” is.

If it’s acceptable to use abbreviations for Protestant Churches, it’s acceptable to use them for Catholic churches.

Don’t be hypocritical and grow a thicker skin.


2,584 posted on 04/28/2010 9:46:50 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

I can’t help it. I’m smilng :-)

Is this new, expanded definition of prissy from a rubber dictionary?

I have to go now and slay dragons. Time for me to get on with my day.


2,585 posted on 04/28/2010 9:47:25 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Running On Empty

Naw.

It’s a pretty stable UNrubbery dictionary . . . not counting the flaws of 63 year old memory between my ears.

Have a blessed day . . . growing closer to THE LORD.


2,586 posted on 04/28/2010 9:49:39 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Quix

You are young enough to be my son.

Wait—what am I saying!


2,587 posted on 04/28/2010 9:50:38 AM PDT by Running On Empty ((The three sorriest words: "It's too late"))
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To: Quix

I can’t comment on your qualifications per the rules but I wouldn’t get rid of the old wardrobe just yet.


2,588 posted on 04/28/2010 9:50:41 AM PDT by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: metmom

I’ve heard of some ET’s growing meat in vats for eating.

Maybe we could see if they’d take on a project of growing some thicker skins in vats for the Roman Catholic rabid clique folks hereon.


2,589 posted on 04/28/2010 9:50:56 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: metmom
No one said "OPC" isn't acceptable.

That isn't the abbreviation you formerly used which was clearly offensive and gutter language not befitting the Religion Forum.

2,590 posted on 04/28/2010 9:51:29 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: metmom
"If it’s acceptable to use abbreviations for Protestant Churches, it’s acceptable to use them for Catholic churches."

They are both acronyms, not abbreviations. The difference is that OPC is a acronym actually used by the Orthodox Presbyterian Church and lacks the history of prejudice, suppression and terrorism that the RC does.

2,591 posted on 04/28/2010 9:51:31 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: count-your-change

LOL.

Wasn’t planning to!

The laughter was good for the soul and body, however.

THANKS TONS.


2,592 posted on 04/28/2010 9:52:17 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"That isn't the abbreviation you formerly used which was clearly offensive and gutter language not befitting the Religion Forum."

And neither is RC (arse).

2,593 posted on 04/28/2010 9:52:45 AM PDT by Natural Law
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

MOMMY, BROTHER’S LOOKING AT ME AGAIN

WITH HIS EYES!!!! HARUMPH!


2,594 posted on 04/28/2010 9:56:52 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Natural Law; metmom
OPC is not the acronym you used before. Use OPC all you want, just like others will continue to use RC. Neither term is gutter language like your other abbreviation.

And neither term contains any "terrorism."

Geesh.

2,595 posted on 04/28/2010 9:59:00 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: count-your-change
“ You’re just Noah Count!”.

Leaving everything else aside, that's a VERY fine pun!

2,596 posted on 04/28/2010 9:59:10 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (Oh Mary, conceived without sin, pray for us who have recourse to thee.)
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To: Running On Empty

Wellllllllll, DADDY-O,

where’s the car keys?

LOL.

You don’t SOUND that much older than I am!

I forget what region you live in, if I ever knew.


2,597 posted on 04/28/2010 9:59:49 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: Mad Dawg

INDEED.

And a wonderful springboard into flights of silliness.


2,598 posted on 04/28/2010 10:00:51 AM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: wagglebee
Paul lived about the time Christ was crucified. People talk, especially since the church was scattered by the persecution that Paul participated in.

What happened to Christ was not done in a vacuum. The events recorded in the Gospels had to have been know, otherwise the authors of the Gospels would not have been able to put them into writing, especially Luke's as he says in Luke 1...

1Many have undertaken to draw up an account of the things that have been fulfilled among us, 2just as they were handed down to us by those who from the first were eyewitnesses and servants of the word.

3Therefore, since I myself have carefully investigated everything from the beginning, it seemed good also to me to write an orderly account for you, most excellent Theophilus, 4so that you may know the certainty of the things you have been taught.

Luke 24:13 Now that same day two of them were going to a village called Emmaus, about seven miles from Jerusalem. 14They were talking with each other about everything that had happened. 15As they talked and discussed these things with each other, Jesus himself came up and walked along with them; 16but they were kept from recognizing him.

17He asked them, "What are you discussing together as you walk along?"

They stood still, their faces downcast. 18One of them, named Cleopas, asked him, "Are you only a visitor to Jerusalem and do not know the things that have happened there in these days?"

Acts 8: 1 And Saul was there, giving approval to his death. On that day a great persecution broke out against the church at Jerusalem, and all except the apostles were scattered throughout Judea and Samaria. 2Godly men buried Stephen and mourned deeply for him. 3But Saul began to destroy the church. Going from house to house, he dragged off men and women and put them in prison.

4Those who had been scattered preached the word wherever they went. 5Philip went down to a city in Samaria and proclaimed the Christthere. 6When the crowds heard Philip and saw the miraculous signs he did, they all paid close attention to what he said. 7With shrieks, evil spirits came out of many, and many paralytics and cripples were healed. 8So there was great joy in that city.

Galatians 1:13 For you have heard of my previous way of life in Judaism, how intensely I persecuted the church of God and tried to destroy it.

Galatians 1:22 I was personally unknown to the churches of Judea that are in Christ. 23They only heard the report: "The man who formerly persecuted us is now preaching the faith he once tried to destroy."

2,599 posted on 04/28/2010 10:01:08 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: Quix

LOL. Same place you get the ermine stole.


2,600 posted on 04/28/2010 10:02:16 AM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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