My understanding is that LDS don’t understand that angels and humans are entirely different kinds of created beings. You are one or the other - humans can’t become angels and vice-versa (despite all the heart-breaking baby obituaries).
Now I also understand that Jesus was the “oldest” of the bazillion spirit babies born of “heavenly father” and his multitude of wives.
Stop me if i have this wrong. But Lucifer was the second oldest?
Anyway, it occured to me that the mormon jesus wasn’t any more special than any of the other bazillion spirit babies, he just happened to be first. It could just a well have been any of the other half a bazillion spirit BOY babies. Just luck of the draw being first I guess.
Also, I am still wondering what happened to heavenly father’s wives after all the spirit babies were born. again, I’m not positive i have this right, but all bazillion must have been born before the Earth began to be populated, right? They went thru the whole “war in heaven”. A third became damned, led by satan, a third were valiant and would be born to Mormons, and a third were sort of wishy-washy and were sent to be born to “gentiles”
OK, I lose the flow here. How did the Earth get populated in the first place? Who did the first spirit babies get born to?
And back to the first question - what did the wives of heavenly father do after all the spirit babies were born? I thought the highest purpose for a Mormon woman is to have children. Once that’s done, are they put out to pasture for eternity? They must be “sealed” to heavenly father so he can’t just turn them our can he?
Jesus was the Firstborn of every creature, he was the first individual born of the Father. He was with the Father in the beginning, and is referred to as the Only Begotten of the Father who was in the bosom of the Father. None are like him, he is Divine.
Jesus was and is unlike any other any other of God’s offspring. He is the ONLY Begotten, so that makes different him from everyone else.
Jesus was divine from the very beginning. He is the Only Begotten of the Father who was in the bosom of the Father and was foreordained from the beginning to be be the Savior — “Foreordained before the foundation of the world”(1 Peter, 1:20). He is the creator of the universe and everything in it. He is perfect in every way and has all power, glory, might and dominion. So he stands apart from any other person or creature.
I don’t know anywhere where Lucifer is referred to as the “second oldest”. LDS Scripture states only that Lucifer was an angel in authority in the presence of God. (Doctrine and Covenants 76:25)
I am really going to stop engaging in discussion due to the fact many of you think it is ok to diminish the spelling of the Lord name using small letter towards the LDS faith and the Godhead.
Hurling insults at the GA and others who are member who you do know personally and never did anything to you personally accept has a different point of view.
If you want to rewrite you question in a respectful manner than I will be glad to answer you inquire.
Many have accused the LDS of being superior but who is doing the belittling towards the LDS faith.
Many of you have never been to a LDS meeting and only know by what others shared who might have jaded oppinions.
Some here like to use a strawman approach to undermind the LDS love for the Bible this kind of behavior is not a Christian act.
Just because we also recognized which others who have written the Bible down through the years does not mean the LDS thinks less of it.
Should study the writers down through the ages and their translation.
You are correct. Jesus is the firstborn of the spirit children, Lucifer was second, Adam and the patriarchs and smith next, and so on.
Jesus was chosen to be the Savior rather than Satan because He said we could have free will and Lucifer was against that, He wanted to make everyone obey so God chose Jesus over Lucifer and then Lucifer rebelled and took 1/3 of the spirit children with him.
To the LDS ‘demons’ attack humans because they are denied progression by getting a human body. Angels are resurrected beings or occasionally spirit children who don’t have bodies yet, but usually resurrected beings.
Also, according to LDS leaders, if you were born Mormon, a convert, white, Native American or black depends upon how much on God’s side (valiant) during the war in heaven. More than one leader taught that Blacks were (fence sitters) which is why they had the ‘curse of Cain’.
And before I am called a liar by the usual suspects, I can source all of this with LDS sources. Feel free to ask.