"The Parable of the Pebble and the Pond" God's gift to us.

It is a curious matter that you seem to be applying some kind of sarcasm to accomplish what? Don't want to read minds or supply thoughts, so what is your point of this post? You seem to be harping on the fact you are lost. But, the discussion was about the merits of the arguments not specifically your lostness.

Our universal lostness since the fall is the very point I am making, it must have a universal solution. Each soul since Adam has a choice. Just because God may know the results of that choice doesn't mean a soul has no freewill. So, if I make a choice and I'm not of the elect then it is useless and I am only fooling myself. If God chooses to call those who have made the choice with their own freewell the elect then so be it, who am I to say it's not so.

For example, I write "it MAY have indeed passed you by. OR it MAY be that God has elected you and implanted faith and you are coming to the end of yourself.

But, you write,

"Having been excluded and passed by your words offer me no comfort."

I was not attempting to comfort you, but call attention to the truth with which we all must deal. If you are in God's crosshairs, you cannot yet know that you are excluded. Here again you claim to be determining your destiny.

You must know a lost person doesn't want to hear Maybe you are Maybe your not when it comes to God's salvation, there are enough stumbling blocks all ready. For example many say if you don't speak in Tongues as evidence of baptism of the Holy Spirit you are not saved. Or if you are saved and die without repentance for you latest sin then sorry you missed the boat. If you do not believe the Bible literally such as a 6 day creation you are heretical and have no faith. Not being predestined as one of the select few with no choice in the matter is the same type of stumbling block.

The Gospel Jesus preached was simple enough for a child to understand, this I know because I was but a child when he revealed himself to me.

You write, "Call me Esau my tears are of no avail, since the beginning I have been doomed, God has not sought me and has left me blind and lame in my search for him."

Okay, Esau.

You write,

"Misery

Despair

Rejection

Hopelessness are my fate.

But, my point was that not even you (in all of this peculiar whining) are really in charge of your "fate". Your destiny is in the hands of the One who made you and He will bring you to Himself, or perhaps leave you in a state of self-pity. We don't yet know. Neither sarcasm or cynicism will change this biblical truth.

The whining and self-pity of the lost knows no bounds and again you say perhaps he will and perhaps he won't, but my experience is he always will, no doubt about it, you can bet the farm on it, nothing is more sure in this world than God's own grace!

But, my point was that not even you (in all of this peculiar whining) are really in charge of your "fate". Your destiny is in the hands of the One who made you and He will bring you to Himself, or perhaps leave you in a state of self-pity. We don't yet know. Neither sarcasm or cynicism will change this biblical truth.

Exactly..

I would only add that no one is "lost" until they take their last breath.. God rewards the last the same as the first.. He can call and draw at HIS pleasure and for HIS glory anytime He chooses

"I would only add that no one is "lost" until they take their last breath.. God rewards the last the same as the first.. He can call and draw at HIS pleasure and for HIS glory anytime He chooses"

Excellent point!! Thanks for making that clearer.

Since this is not a "point system", everyone who is foreknown, predestined, called, and justified is...glorified. Rom 8.

You are up early. I guess that's required of a Mom of 7.

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