[johngrace]

Meaning He did not even have sex during her Pregnancy Too with the until and definely does not have to mean after either.

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Meaning He did not even have sex during her Pregnancy Too

Where do you come up w/this stuff? You bring up things that aren't even up for discussion.

definely does not have to mean after either.

Why is this so hard for you to understand.... not till she had brought forth her firstborn son. Means after Jesus was born.

You can ignore The Truth but you can't change it.

Say you want to believe your tradition instead of God's Word but don't be dishonest and say it doesn't mean what is says. G'night.