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To: The Ignorant Fisherman

My friend, please understand that Scripture was given to the Church, and must be understood in conjunction with Sacred Tradition, retained in the Catholic Church, but rejected by fundamentalists such as yourself. I reiterate that you are ignorant of the true meaning of Scripture, which is determined by the one body with the authority to teach it, the Catholic Church. Mary was, indeed, born without the stain of Original Sin, through the grace of God, and is the closest creature to God.


120 posted on 04/09/2010 10:41:31 AM PDT by I-ambush (I didn't think, I never dreamed, that I would be around to see it all come true-McCartney and Wings)
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To: I-ambush
"My friend, please understand that Scripture was given to the Church, and must be understood in conjunction with Sacred Tradition, retained in the Catholic Church"

Nah. Scripture contains God's words that are written to and intended to be read and understood by everyone. Those that think that only they have the "keys" are simply gnostics in disguise.

"Mary was, indeed, born without the stain of Original Sin"

According to the gnostics, but according to Scripture, there's no such thing as original sin. It contradidcts all of Ezekiel 18 and God points out in John 9 where that idea comes from.

123 posted on 04/09/2010 11:04:36 AM PDT by spunkets
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To: I-ambush
My friend, please understand that Scripture was given to the Church, and must be understood in conjunction with Sacred Tradition, retained in the Catholic Church, but rejected by fundamentalists such as yourself. I reiterate that you are ignorant of the true meaning of Scripture, which is determined by the one body with the authority to teach it, the Catholic Church. Mary was, indeed, born without the stain of Original Sin, through the grace of God, and is the closest creature to God.

Was it drugs, or did they hypnotize you???

Your religious tradition didn't show up till after the scripture was penned and taught...Hundreds of years after the scripture was penned...So you got it completely wrong...

Your man-made religious tradition must be understood in conjunction with the written word...And if your tradition doesn't fit scripture, dump the tradition...

You can make stuff up that you want to believe the scripture says, but that doesn't change what the scripture really says...The scripture does not say nor imply Mary was sinless...

137 posted on 04/09/2010 4:42:38 PM PDT by Iscool (I don't understand all that I know...)
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To: I-ambush

Said seemingly from the best

!!!!TRADITIONS!!!!

and attitudes of the RELIGIOUS RULERS

2000 years ago.


146 posted on 04/09/2010 6:58:53 PM PDT by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: I-ambush

My friend, thank for your kind response.. but the immaculate conception is a lie. The seed of Adam (Romans 12-19) was by passed and thus not transferred unto Jesus’ perfect body. God has prepared a body (Hebrews 10:5).

“Why when he comes into the world, he said, Sacrifice and offering you would not, but a body have you prepared me’

My dear friend your position seems to make sense but is not biblical.. That is what it comes down to...Will you follow the Bible or tradition?

http://www.theignorantfishermen.com/2009/06/just-broken-egg.html


161 posted on 04/10/2010 3:14:02 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
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