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The Real Problem Beneath the Pedophilia
Standing on My Head ^ | 3/22/10 | Fr. Dwight Longenecker

Posted on 03/23/2010 6:37:37 AM PDT by marshmallow

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To: Woebama

**God and God’s laws first. Ignoring this has been where Catholics have gone seriously off the reservation with their “church over all other things”type of Christianity.**

Perhaps you need to be more specific in your statement, otherwise -——

This is propaganda being fed to you by Protestants. God and Christ and the Holy Spirit are the center of the Catholic Church. You know that from attending Masses. All three members of the trinity are present during each and every Mass.

Love God — first
Love your neighbor — second

These are the great commandments. The Catholic Church doesn’t go astray with them at all.


41 posted on 03/23/2010 8:33:00 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Woebama

Like your screen name. LOL!


42 posted on 03/23/2010 8:34:30 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Like your screen name. LOL!
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43 posted on 03/23/2010 8:35:57 AM PDT by Woebama (Never, never, never quit)
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To: Philo1962

In most cases, these offenders were molested as children themselves.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN..................


44 posted on 03/23/2010 8:37:14 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: chesley

But without a belief in a higher power to hold you responsible in the next life, all things are morally equal.


Repeat LOUD and OFTEN...........................


45 posted on 03/23/2010 8:38:36 AM PDT by PeterPrinciple ( Seeking the truth here folks.)
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To: Slyfox
If someone is spending all their time figuring out how to do perverse things, they have no time to pray. It is not rocket science.

Jesus spoke to and about people as if they were people.

You're talking like the devil has your tongue.

46 posted on 03/23/2010 8:39:50 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: marshmallow
This serious sickness at the very heart of the church swept through monasteries, convents and seminaries. The honest priests, nuns and religious lost their faith and got out. The lazy ones stayed put and enjoyed a meal ticket for life. No longer believing in the reality and power of the sacraments, they drifted into a no man's land in which they were priests, bishops and religious without believing in religion. What were they supposed to do? They decided to re-create the church as a kind of dining club with a social conscience.

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Good article, as usual.

47 posted on 03/23/2010 8:40:05 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Woebama
**thus the child abusing priest is switched to another parish, quietly.**

Are you aware that priests are way down on the list behind teachers and other denominational ministers?

Teacher's Advocacy of Pedophilia Raises Legal Questions

Teachers and Pedophilia - In YOUR Backyard

Washington Post -- D.C. school officials reported 220 abuse allegations against teachers

Sex Abuse by Teachers Said Worse Than Catholic Church

WHEN BOYS ARE MOLESTED BY TEACHERS AND OTHERS IN POSITIONS OF AUTHORITY

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Sexual Abuse of Children by Protestant Ministers

Report: Protestant Church Insurers Handle 260 Sex Abuse Cases a Year

Abuse by Protestant Ministers of Every Denomination

Child Sexual Molestation by Various Protestant Clergy

Baptist Predators website

"Yeshiva" of Brooklyn also Guilty of Child Abuse


48 posted on 03/23/2010 8:40:17 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: r9etb

Hollywood is the primary marketer of deviance. That should be your #1 target if you expect to make a difference.


49 posted on 03/23/2010 8:43:44 AM PDT by Neoliberalnot ((Read "The Grey Book" for an alternative to corruption in DC))
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To: Woebama

**Well, the theological splitting of hairs leaves lay Catholics worshipping Saints and thinking things like Saint Anthony cured their boy, thinking that Mary is an intermediary to God, and that scripture derives its authority from the Church.**

Catholics do not worship saints.

Where are you getting this erroneous information?

God/Jesus Christ do all the healing — not the saints, not the Blessed Virgin Mary — we only ask them to pray for us.

Bet you have asked someone to pray for you in your lifetime too. Same thing! God does the healing — not the person you asked to pray for you!!!!! Got it?


50 posted on 03/23/2010 8:43:45 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Neoliberalnot
Infiltration of churches by male homosexuals is the root cause.

BINGO!

51 posted on 03/23/2010 8:50:19 AM PDT by Dengar01
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To: ClearBlueSky

It isn’t.


52 posted on 03/23/2010 8:57:23 AM PDT by MrChips (MrChips)
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To: Salvation

Deviance is everywhere- no argument.
But the LAST, absolutely LAST place it should be tolerated and ‘understood’ in among those who propose to speak for God.
I don’t want homosexuals or pedophiles interacting with children ANYWHERE.
But the FIRST place I want them purged from is the very clergy that preaches obedience to Gods laws while living in violation of them.
Those who would preach higher standards should be held to them first.


53 posted on 03/23/2010 8:58:05 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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To: r9etb

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/2477782/posts


54 posted on 03/23/2010 9:04:33 AM PDT by Slyfox
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To: ClearBlueSky

**But the LAST, absolutely LAST place it should be tolerated and ‘understood’ in among those who propose to speak for God.**

Agree with you.

You speak of higher standards also. I believe that is also true. Unfortunately, all these men and women (Protestant reference there) are only human and DO fall into sin.

I believe that much of it goes back to the way they were influenced by their parents.


55 posted on 03/23/2010 9:05:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: marshmallow

“they drifted into a no man’s land in which they were priests, bishops and religious without believing in religion.”

Believing in a religion? Whatever happened to a personal relationship with Christ?


56 posted on 03/23/2010 9:06:08 AM PDT by Grunthor (Over YOUR dead body!)
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To: UriÂ’el-2012

Was the Rabbi recently accused of sexual abuse in Brooklyn Kosher or merely part of a man made organization post 70A.D.


57 posted on 03/23/2010 9:06:08 AM PDT by bronx2
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To: Neoliberalnot
Hollywood is the primary marketer of deviance.

It's everywhere, though -- movies, TV, fashions, music, magazines ... everywhere. And it's most especially prevalent on the Internet -- you can find anything there, for free.

You really can't target the medium without first targeting the way people perceive the medium. No easy task, and I have no answers for how to do it -- but it has to start on our side of the keyboard.

58 posted on 03/23/2010 9:10:07 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: Neoliberalnot
Hollywood is the primary marketer of deviance.

It's everywhere, though -- movies, TV, fashions, music, magazines ... everywhere. And it's most especially prevalent on the Internet -- you can find anything there, for free.

You really can't target the medium without first targeting the way people perceive the medium. No easy task, and I have no answers for how to do it -- but it has to start on our side of the keyboard.

59 posted on 03/23/2010 9:10:09 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: MrChips

From your bio page:
“I’m into people, simplicity...”

Yet the concept of SIMPLE right/wrong seems to offend you.
In just this matter, or in everything? Rather inconsistent to value simplicity yet consider it an insult, no?
Not much on expounding on which of my comments was ‘simplistic nonsense’ are you? Just dismiss them with a terse insult. If you believe in situational ethics- especially re. homosexuality/pedophilia among the clergy-explain them.
Otherwise I am left to think this debate has hit a personal nerve of some sort with you if my belief in basic standards of right/wrong re. the Church is what you disdain.


60 posted on 03/23/2010 9:12:34 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (Whenever someone says it's not about Islam-it's about Islam. Jesus loves you, Allah wants you dead!)
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