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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Wow, I never thought I'd say this, but thank you Eckleburg for the links. The videos are powerful and well done. I re-post the link here and ask that everyone watch the videos as presented.

http://www.romancatholicidentity.com/2010/02/priest-is-alter-christus-bridging-human.html

And btw, there is no indication anywhere that priests are Jesus Christ like you represent time and time again. Thousands of Church documents and whole Catechism for you to pore over, and you have nothing which teaches priests are Jesus Christ . This must burn you up because you use this bogus "priests are Jesus Christ" argument to concoct the ole "no wonder priests are able to abuse children, the kids are taught that he's Jesus!" charade. I've seen you defame priests like this in the past, and I'm sure I'll see you do it again. But if you are really looking for Jesus (body, blood, soul and divinity) I'll give you a hint: don't look at who is standing at the alter, but look in the tabernacle instead.

What you don't understand, Eckeburg, is that the people you debate about Catholicism know what the Catholic Church teaches and represents. We attend mass regularly, sometimes daily. Many of us have been in Catholic schools our entire lives, been taught Catechism by nuns and priests, and some even have attended the seminary. We have family members and close personal friends who are priests and nuns. The Catholic Church is part of our routine, part of our every day lives, part of our culture. You telling us what we believe and what we have been taught is beyond bizarre.

And we know your agenda.

209 posted on 03/25/2010 8:43:47 PM PDT by theanonymouslurker
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To: theanonymouslurker
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

210 posted on 03/25/2010 8:51:15 PM PDT by Religion Moderator
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To: theanonymouslurker
You telling us what we believe and what we have been taught is beyond bizarre.

I don't tell you what you believe. You tell us what you believe and we Bible-believing Christians are dismayed by what you tell us.

What I do tell you is what Scripture says and why what you believe is incorrect, according to the word of God.

All very telling.

214 posted on 03/25/2010 10:33:32 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: theanonymouslurker; Dr. Eckleburg
And btw, there is no indication anywhere that priests are Jesus Christ like you represent time and time again.

When we speak of consecration without any special qualification, we ordinarily understand it as the act by which, in the celebration of Holy Mass, the bread and wine are changed into the body and blood of Christ. It is called transubstantiation, for in the Sacrament of the Eucharist the substance of bread and wine do not remain, but the entire substance of bread is changed into the body of Christ, and the entire substance of wine is changed into His blood, the species or outward semblance of bread and wine alone remaining. This change is produced in virtue of the words: This is my body and This is my blood, or This is the chalice of my blood, pronounced by the priest assuming the person of Christ and using the same ceremonies that Christ used at the Last Supper. That this is the essential form has been the constant belief and teaching of both the Eastern and Western Churches (Renaudot, "Liturgiarum Orientalium Collection", I, i).

Now we know that the pope is the REAL stand in for Christ..but each time he says mass the priest is christ..

217 posted on 03/26/2010 7:45:40 AM PDT by RnMomof7
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