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NEW YORK TIMES TARGETS THE POPE AGAIN
Catholic League ^
| March 16, 2010
| William Donohue
Posted on 03/16/2010 7:25:56 AM PDT by Pope Pius XII
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To: Natural Law
You are the master of your own soul, but have we not all been taught that when someone strikes you on your left cheek to turn and offer them your right?So by this reasoning, when a priest touches the genitals of one of my little boys, I should turn over another to him?
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:38:07 AM PDT
by
T Minus Four
("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
To: T Minus Four
he started it by saying,
“No, it’s because the pope sent a child molester away for therapy instead of removing him from service and when he returned to service he abused yet another child.”
talk about trying to get the Pope condemned and accused.
102
posted on
03/16/2010 9:39:19 AM PDT
by
Pope Pius XII
(There's no such thing as divorce)
To: T Minus Four
You just love to change the subject don’t you?
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:39:55 AM PDT
by
Pope Pius XII
(There's no such thing as divorce)
To: Pope Pius XII
Indeed the bishops did cover up for pedophiles. The media however and others included use it to as a way to say that celibacy caused the sex abuse scandal. It didnt.No, as I said before, those of us who live in reality know the difference between a diddler and a straight dude with the hots.
It's just that the pedophilia scandal exposed an entire seamy side of the catholic hierarchy, so all aspects are open to scrutiny now.
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:40:18 AM PDT
by
T Minus Four
("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
To: T Minus Four
I agree it’s not a very good analogy but my intent was not to compare the gravity of the two situations. Rather it was to show how, at the time, it was unthinkable to believe that psychiatry could not cure pedophilia.
Clearly it was wrong to put so much faith in psychiatry. No one (at least not me) is saying the bishops didn’t make a huge mistake there.
The point is though, it was an honest mistake, with the best it intentions. It was not some evil conspiracy.
To: Pope Pius XII
he started it Does your mommy know you're home from school today?
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:41:33 AM PDT
by
T Minus Four
("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
To: Pope Pius XII
I think you are projecting. It’s a big word that means, I know you are but what am I, LOL!!!
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:42:40 AM PDT
by
T Minus Four
("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
To: T Minus Four
You can criticize you want to, that’s your opinion and your entitled to it. But I gaurantee you, that if you think Church will change her teachings she won’t do it.
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:42:56 AM PDT
by
Pope Pius XII
(There's no such thing as divorce)
To: T Minus Four
What the heck, does that have to do with anything?
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:43:42 AM PDT
by
Pope Pius XII
(There's no such thing as divorce)
To: FourtySeven
The point is though, it was an honest mistake,OK, but you're still not adressing the point that it was a crime which should have been reported and the individuals should have been tried in court. The bishops certainly knew that they were breaking the law by not reporting it.
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:44:59 AM PDT
by
T Minus Four
("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
To: T Minus Four
Besides, the Catholic Church was fully aware that the activity was a crime.Of course, you are correct. However, for 1750 years at least, in one place or another, The HRCC had it's own courts, its own punishments, and yes Virginia, it's own prisons (and death penalty).
So, there IS a long, if not glorious, HRCC tradition of settling this stuff in-house. Doesn't work any more. Doesn't work here. Probably never really worked.
No excuses. mais tout comprendre est tout pardonner.
That's for us. Let the cops and the courts handle the rest, with the disgusting chips falling where they may. When the outhouse explodes, everbody gets covered. HRCC, viewed strictly as an organization, is no more immune to the law than any other.
PS, If I catch a Baptist playing cards, where do I turn him in?
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:45:30 AM PDT
by
Kenny Bunk
(Obama? Definitely eligible to be Prime Minister of the UK.)
To: FourtySeven
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:45:36 AM PDT
by
Pope Pius XII
(There's no such thing as divorce)
To: Pope Pius XII
But I gaurantee you, that if you think Church will change her teachings she wont do it.
Considering the church's history of protecting pedophiles I would expect nothing less.
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:46:11 AM PDT
by
TSgt
(RE-ELECT NOBODY - VOTE THEM ALL OUT!)
To: Pope Pius XII
But I gaurantee you, that if you think Church will change her teachings she wont do it.And THAT my FRiend, is exactly why I am no longer a Catholic.
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:46:35 AM PDT
by
T Minus Four
("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
To: Pope Pius XII
its actually the responsibility of law enforcement
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:46:44 AM PDT
by
marajade
(Yes, I'm a SW freak!)
To: Pope Pius XII
The NY Times attack on the pope has to be related to the Catholic Church’s stand against abortions which is in opposition to abortion funding in the health care bill.
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:48:52 AM PDT
by
Enough is ENOUGH
(Select conservatives for the coming primaries, now. Vote out the incumbents.)
To: Enough is ENOUGH
Couldn’t agree more. And that the Church doesn’t approve of same-sex unions.
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:49:54 AM PDT
by
Pope Pius XII
(There's no such thing as divorce)
To: sabe@q.com
PP: Dealing with sexual abuse is a responsibility that belongs to the Bishops, not the Vatican.Sabe: its actually the responsibility of law enforcement
THis is exactly my point
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:49:58 AM PDT
by
T Minus Four
("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
To: MikeWUSAF; T Minus Four
...in this case, the cover-up is almost more vile than the crime considering who is facilitating the cover-up. Exactly!
The behavior was not just a "psychological disorder" 50-60 yrs ago. It was and is a CRIME!
Any organization can be infiltrated by sociopaths. It's covering up their CRIMES that makes it so much worse. What happened to the people in authority that did not report the CRIMES to the police. Were they elevated in stature, or were they thrown out and prosecuted for their CRIMES?
How many more suffered because CRIMES were covered up?
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:51:29 AM PDT
by
wmfights
(If you want change support SenateConservatives.com)
To: MikeWUSAF; Salvation; Pope Pius XII; All
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posted on
03/16/2010 9:53:33 AM PDT
by
T Minus Four
("You do not have soul, you ARE a soul. You have a body." C.S. Lewis)
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