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To: Melian
The Letters of the Apostles are rife with passages indicating that one must live Christ’s words, not just talk about them.

True. However, those same passages don't say anything along the lines of living Christ's words save you. What they say is that a saved person is required to live out Christ's words. There is a difference. One is a belief that salvation comes from your works and the other is that your good works comes about because of your salvation.

If mere belief was enough for salvation, why would Paul write to various groups of converts cautioning them that they were on the wrong track? Weren’t they “saved” by virtue of being Christians? No. He wrote because they were in jeopardy of losing their salvation by improper beliefs, misunderstandings, and impure acts.

Please post the verses which say that people were "in jeapardy of losing their salvation by improper beliefs, misunderstandings and impure acts."


184 posted on 03/14/2010 6:12:01 PM PDT by ScubieNuc
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To: ScubieNuc

See post 259.

We agree. A person who claims faith in Christ is required to live out Christ’s words. Good works come about through your faith. Living out your faith through good works, for the rest of your life, brings you salvation.

In Matt 5:22 we know that anyone angry with his brother is in danger of judgement. In Matt 7:19 we know any tree that does not bring forth “good” fruit, shall be cut down and cast into the fire. In Matt 18:8 we find that any part of you that causes you to sin must be cut off lest you be cast into eternal fire.

In 2 Thes 1:8 we hear about those who do not OBEY the gospel. In Jude 1:5 we are admonished that “though ye once knew all things” Christ still destroys the that believed not.

Christ cautioned those he forgave to “sin no more.” Actions. He knew they believed but something more was required. Change. Conversion of thought and behaviour. He also said in John 8:34 that whoever commits a sin is the servant of sin. In John 15:22 He says, powerfully, that “If I had not come and spoken to them, they would not have sin, but now they have no excuse for their sin.” In Romans 6 we are told to be dead to sin. Believers are told to let no sin reign in their mortal bodies.

Finally in 1 Cor 8:12 we are told firmly that when we sin against our brethren and wound their weak conscience, we sin against Christ.


262 posted on 03/15/2010 10:14:00 PM PDT by Melian ("The seed is the same but the soil is different..." ~Fulton Sheen)
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