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300 words, not going to read it.

56 posted on 03/02/2010 9:26:42 AM PST by acipher

To: acipher; Colofornian

Well, at least read the first "100 words".

There's good info there.

57 posted on 03/02/2010 9:34:03 AM PST by SZonian (There are times when we have to tell loved ones truths that hurt. We do so because we care for them.)

Don't you see how Mormons are speaking out of both sides of their mouths?

On the one hand, this article's author is saying the atonement applies to even heathen who don't know Jesus, and thus accrue benefits of the atonement...(And if we want to extend that beyond the heathen, Lds say essentially everybody is saved anyway...no matter what their relationship is with Christ). Now you are saying conditions exist for the atonement to apply - obedience to the laws and ordinances of the gospel.

So which is it? Does the atonement have no conditions which applies to all, even heathens? Or does it have conditions of obedience? If it has conditions of obediences, then how are those who don't obey going to be benefactors?

Now, let me add one more component when we're discussing both salvation and the atonement: Timing. When are we/were we/will be saved? When are we/were we/will be atoned for?

63 posted on 03/02/2010 9:48:06 AM PST by Colofornian (If you're not going to drink the coffee, at least wake up and smell it.)

To: acipher; Colofornian; SZonian

300 words, not going to read it.

LOL, how MORMON of you!

"Not approved by the mormon leaders...not gonna read it!"

67 posted on 03/02/2010 10:00:01 AM PST by greyfoxx39 ("The Economy Is So Bad, Even 'Rosy Scenario' Lost Her Job"-Jim Geraghty)

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