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To: NYer; metmom; GodGunsGuts
Michael Shermer, editor of Skeptic magazine, wryly comments that no one has ever met a dead guy who came back to report on the afterlife.

The mistake people make is thinking that Jesus was the first and/or the only person ever to be heard from after death under believable circumstances. In fact he was the last and it had been a long time since it had happened at the time, nonetheless there are other believable accounts e.g.

SA1 28:6 And when Saul enquired of the LORD, the LORD answered him not, neither by dreams, nor by Urim, nor by prophets.

SA1 28:7 Then said Saul unto his servants, Seek me a woman that hath a familiar spirit, that I may go to her, and enquire of her. And his servants said to him, Behold, there is a woman that hath a familiar spirit at Endor.

SA1 28:8 And Saul disguised himself, and put on other raiment, and he went, and two men with him, and they came to the woman by night: and he said, I pray thee, divine unto me by the familiar spirit, and bring me him up, whom I shall name unto thee.

SA1 28:9 And the woman said unto him, Behold, thou knowest what Saul hath done, how he hath cut off those that have familiar spirits, and the wizards, out of the land: wherefore then layest thou a snare for my life, to cause me to die?

SA1 28:10 And Saul sware to her by the LORD, saying, As the LORD liveth, there shall no punishment happen to thee for this thing.

SA1 28:11 Then said the woman, Whom shall I bring up unto thee? And he said, Bring me up Samuel.

SA1 28:12 And when the woman saw Samuel, she cried with a loud voice: and the woman spake to Saul, saying, Why hast thou deceived me? for thou art Saul.

SA1 28:13 And the king said unto her, Be not afraid: for what sawest thou? And the woman said unto Saul, I saw gods ascending out of the earth.

SA1 28:14 And he said unto her, What form is he of? And she said, An old man cometh up; and he is covered with a mantle. And Saul perceived that it was Samuel, and he stooped with his face to the ground, and bowed himself.

SA1 28:15 And Samuel said to Saul, Why hast thou disquieted me, to bring me up? And Saul answered, I am sore distressed; for the Philistines make war against me, and God is departed from me, and answereth me no more, neither by prophets, nor by dreams: therefore I have called thee, that thou mayest make known unto me what I shall do.

SA1 28:16 Then said Samuel, Wherefore then dost thou ask of me, seeing the LORD is departed from thee, and is become thine enemy?

SA1 28:17 And the LORD hath done to him, as he spake by me: for the LORD hath rent the kingdom out of thine hand, and given it to thy neighbour, even to David:

SA1 28:18 Because thou obeyedst not the voice of the LORD, nor executedst his fierce wrath upon Amalek, therefore hath the LORD done this thing unto thee this day.


4 posted on 02/28/2010 2:07:17 PM PST by wendy1946
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To: wendy1946

This only works if someone believes the testimony of the Scriptures. As a Christian, I believe it, but this will not convince an atheist.


15 posted on 02/28/2010 2:36:54 PM PST by Nosterrex
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To: wendy1946

Thank you, Wendy, for the scriptural quotes, but you missed the point of the article. The atheist is ready to respond to scripture. He is not prepared, however, for actual scientific data in support of near death experiences. That is where you have them on unfamiliar territory.


20 posted on 02/28/2010 2:47:01 PM PST by NYer ("Where Peter is, there is the Church." - St. Ambrose of Milan)
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