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To: kosta50; Dr. Eckleburg; betty boop; Quix; spirited irish; MHGinTN; Godzilla
What I did say was, based on what AG wrote, that some people are saved because they were given the 'ears' and others are damned because God chose not to give them the spiritual ears.

You misrepresent what I said. The following is excerpted from my post 819 on this thread:

Again, it is not a matter of punishment. Man is condemned already as the Scriptures offered earlier explain. [Refers to post 775, excerpted below:]

God did not “owe” Adamic man anything. Our salvation is a gift.

But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatest thereof thou shalt surely die [literally, muwth muwth or “death death”]. – Genesis 2:17

He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. – John 3:18

And fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear him which is able to destroy both soul and body in hell. – Matthew 10:28

So also [is] the resurrection of the dead. It is sown in corruption; it is raised in incorruption: It is sown in dishonour; it is raised in glory: it is sown in weakness; it is raised in power: It is sown a natural body; it is raised a spiritual body. There is a natural body, and there is a spiritual body. And so it is written, The first man Adam was made a living soul; the last Adam [was made] a quickening spirit. – I Corinthians 15:42-45

However, there is a kind of man who will be punished for cause. And that cause is that he willfully chooses to reject the knowledge of God which is given to all men. God gives such a one over to a reprobate mind. (emphasis mine)

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Romans 1:18-20

And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. - Romans 1:28-32

God's Name is I AM.

943 posted on 03/11/2010 9:36:36 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl; betty boop

An aside . . . you two math . . . geeks might find the following interesting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mandelbrot_set#3D_Mandelbulb

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread542140/pg1


950 posted on 03/11/2010 9:47:56 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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