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To: Mr Rogers
As I’ve pointed out, God’s calling, in scripture, is not irresistible.

God's general call to all men to repent is indeed resistible, but his effectual calling (his SAVING Grace) is irresistible to all who are saved.

Man's nature is to resist God. Only if God changes your nature can you answer God's call.

852 posted on 03/10/2010 10:32:29 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: P-Marlowe

Where does scripture distinguish between God’s general call (which is always resisted, according to Calvinists) and God’s effectual calling?

If the public calling is impossible to respond to, and the secret calling irresistible, then we are saved by grace thru election...and Jesus is a liar. When Jesus says “Whoever”, it means whoever. And when Paul says “we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand”, I figure he meant faith, not a list of names.

Neither Jesus nor Paul sold used cars...

Of course, I’m not a learned theologian. I just reckon they said what they meant.

God calls. For those who believe, it is effectual. For those who do not, it is a call to condemnation, for they damn themselves. “Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.”

No need to twist the words of God.


853 posted on 03/10/2010 10:46:52 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: P-Marlowe

“Only if God changes your nature can you answer God’s call.”

Actually, Jesus said, “you refuse to come to me that you may have life” - note the order, come before life. And John wrote “and that by believing you may have life in his name.”

Believe, and receive life. That is the order God’s Word gives. If your theology has a different order, I suggest aligning it with God’s word.


854 posted on 03/10/2010 10:50:32 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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