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Thank you for your replies, dear kosta50!

me: kosta50 keeps insisting that we prove God to him

Kosta50: Well, if it is a "fact' than it should be provable. Otherwise it's not a fact, but a hypothesis, or at best a theory.

To the contrary, God the Creator is more real, true, fundamental than anything discernable to observers existing “in” His Creation.

Man cannot position himself outside “all that there is” to see it all at once.

As a metaphor, consider Max Tegmark’s Level IV Parallel Universe model. To paraphrase, the observer “in” space/time may see a pair of orbiting particles which to the observer “outside” space/time would be two strands in a double helix. The observer “in” space/time sees relative motion from his perspective. The observer “outside” space/time sees the geometry or mathematic structure. He perceives it all at once, beginning to end. In the case of the particles, strands. The observer “in” space/time is watching a movie, frame by frame. The observer “outside” space/time sees it all at once.

Demands for “proof” of God are blind to even this very basic insight of geometric physics.

As spirited irish said (paraphrased) the universe is not anthropomorphic. God is not anthropomorphic.

Man is not the measure of God!

me: Bottom line, faith comes by hearing. If a person has “ears to hear” – a gift of God – He will. And if he doesn’t, all we can do is pray for him.

you: So, God determined who will hear and who will not? Yet those who don't will be 'punished?' For what?

Again, it is not a matter of punishment. Man is condemned already as the Scriptures offered earlier explain.

However, there is a kind of man who will be punished for cause. And that cause is that he willfully chooses to reject the knowledge of God which is given to all men. God gives such a one over to a reprobate mind. (emphasis mine)

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness; Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed [it] unto them.

For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, [even] his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse: - Romans 1:18-20

And even as they did not like to retain God in [their] knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient; Being filled with all unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud, boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents, Without understanding, covenantbreakers, without natural affection, implacable, unmerciful:

Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them. - Romans 1:28-32

God’s Name is I AM and Alpha and Omega.

Man cannot position himself outside “all that there is” to see it all at once.

Indeed. It seems to me our dear kosta has a serious logical problem right there. For given the statements he repetitively makes, he evidently thinks himself as somehow "outside" the order of divinely-constituted reality/creation. To such an extent that he alleges he already knows who God [in Whom he does not believe] will save, and how many [what disorder of mind thinks itself capable of reconciling two such irreconcilable statements — i.e., "no God" AND simultaneously knowledge of His Judgment?] . But he never explains to us HOW he has personally come to occupy such an exalted position.

I'd like to hear that story.

Thanks ever so much, dearest sister in Christ, for your most perceptive essay/post!