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To: the_conscience
"That is why it depends on faith, in order that the promise may rest on grace and be guaranteed to all his offspring—not only to the adherent of the law but also to the one who shares the faith of Abraham, who is the father of us all...No distrust made him waver concerning the promise of God, but he grew strong in his faith as he gave glory to God, fully convinced that God was able to do what he had promised. That is why his faith was "counted to him as righteousness." But the words "it was counted to him" were not written for his sake alone, but for ours also.

It will be counted to us who believe in him who raised from the dead Jesus our Lord, who was delivered up for our trespasses and raised for our justification. Therefore, since we have been justified by faith, we have peace with God through our Lord Jesus Christ. Through him we have also obtained access by faith into this grace in which we stand, and we rejoice in hope of the glory of God."

We OBTAIN ACCESS. How? BY FAITH. Access into what? This grace in which we stand.

If we have access ("the ability, right, or permission to approach, enter, speak with, or use; admittance") by faith, then we enter thru faith.

If you want to call that a new law, then I would remind you of the Jews in John 6:

28Then they said to him, "What must we do, to be doing the works of God?"

29Jesus answered them, "This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent."

Jesus says that if you want to be justified by works, then there is one you must do - believe. IF you want to call that a work - but scripture does not.

542 posted on 03/05/2010 1:28:25 PM PST by Mr Rogers (I loathe the ground he slithers on!)
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To: Mr Rogers

“IF you want to call that a work - but scripture does not.”

I don’t think your semantic switcheroo will work. A condition is a law is a work.


544 posted on 03/05/2010 1:36:12 PM PST by the_conscience (We ought to obey God, rather than men. (Acts 5:29b))
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