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To: Dr. Eckleburg
It's the chosen-before-we-were-even-born stuff that rings false to me. There would be no point in creating us if that were true.

As a friend of mine used to say, why bother creating a work of art? Just imagine it, and go on to the next thing.

It's not natural for us to understand how the spirit works within us, because we are born into the world of material things and spend part of our lives not being born again. Someday it will all be clear.

54 posted on 02/28/2010 2:25:18 PM PST by firebrand
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To: firebrand
It's the chosen-before-we-were-even-born stuff that rings false to me.

It rings false to all men initially. We like to think we're in control. We get riled up if we think we're not.

But this "chosen" stuff isn't plucked from the ether; it's in the Bible. I didn't see it either for a long while. Thank God it was finally made clearer to me. It has been a great blessing. As it is meant to be for all Christians. Don't let the fallen world talk you out of it. We did not choose Him; He chose us. Read Ephesians 1.

"For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth" -- Romans 9:11

Read Loraine (a guy) Boettner's book online free to know the truer perspective. The Calvinist imperative founded this country and it sustains it because it is predicated on Scripture alone, for God's glory alone.

THE REFORMED DOCTRINE OF PREDESTINATION

85 posted on 02/28/2010 3:50:53 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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