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To: MarkBsnr; Dr. Eckleburg; HarleyD; RnMomof7; xzins; blue-duncan
Then are you saying that the indwelling Reformed Holy Spirit provides an inerrant interpretation of Scripture (of whichever Bible one happens to be reading), rather than an indwelling knowledge of Scripture in its intended totality?

I probably do not understand the distinction you are making, but if "indwelling knowledge of scripture" means being able to quote scripture verses one has never heard of before just because the Holy Spirit has indwelt, it does not work that way. Holy Spirit does give correct interpretation of God's word to God's Church of all believers. This is done over the course of a lifetime of sanctification and to some it is given more than to others, and to some the same topics are covered at different times.

Therefore, when you and I disagree on interpretation I am NOT saying that Holy Spirit gives me interpretation, but not to you. As a believer, you get interpretation too. We can still disagree and both be Christians since we are being brought closer to Him on God's timetables and through His methods. While Holy Spirit does not teach error, He DOES allow error to be believed at least for a time, for His own reasons and timing. Surely as Christians we can all say that while Christians we have believed some things before that we now consider to be error. To whatever extent we are now correct on those issues it was Holy Spirit who made that happen.

Your statement on the Reformed reprobates doing better, even though they are going to wind up in hell, by knowing the Gospel is, shall I say, the most unChristian statement that I recall you posting.

I still have no idea why. Even by Catholic theology God already knows who will never accept Him. Among those people do not some lead better and happier lives than others? And among the happier ones, are not many of those also more moral than the less better off people (during their times on earth)? If you agree to all of this then you should find nothing controversial or unChristian about anything I have said on the matter. Could you explain where you are coming from?

FK: When we both see "the meek shall inherit the earth" we both say "true".

This passage means "all the meek", not just the Reformed elect meek.

Are there not many meek people without faith? If you say "Yes" then do all of them go to Heaven? If you say "No", then you really mean "all the meek who have faith". In that case we are saying the same thing.

448 posted on 03/05/2010 2:14:33 AM PST by Forest Keeper ((It is a joy to me to know that God had my number, before He created numbers.))
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To: Forest Keeper
I probably do not understand the distinction you are making, but if "indwelling knowledge of scripture" means being able to quote scripture verses one has never heard of before just because the Holy Spirit has indwelt, it does not work that way.

I am not talking of quoting Scripture verses; I am talking about the knowledge of salvation given to one by the Reformed Holy Spirit. If the Reformed Holy Spirit can give one perfect knowledge, then why rely on these multiple versions of Scripture translated, interpreted and printed by men?

I still have no idea why. Even by Catholic theology God already knows who will never accept Him. Among those people do not some lead better and happier lives than others?

Yes. And?

And among the happier ones, are not many of those also more moral than the less better off people (during their times on earth)?

In your previous argument, you stated that temporal happiness was related to knowledge of the Gospel. I still challenge you to provide evidence that Reformed reprobates led happier lives on earth knowing the Gospel. I will further ask whether that is even pertinent. An eternity in the agony of hell dwarfs a lifetime of being a Reformed reprobate, does it not? Does it then matter?

Could you explain where you are coming from?

I'll try. If the Reformed Holy Spirit transfers all required knowledge to the newly transformed believer, then there is no point to any printed matter, since the believe will have all that he requires. Preaching the Gospel to the Reformed reprobate is worse than useless to them, since it might be considered the equivalent of taunting them with something that they cannot attain.

Are there not many meek people without faith? If you say "Yes" then do all of them go to Heaven? If you say "No", then you really mean "all the meek who have faith". In that case we are saying the same thing.

I say yes, but only based upon the Judgement.

558 posted on 03/05/2010 4:10:43 PM PST by MarkBsnr ( I would not believe in the Gospel if the authority of the Catholic Church did not move me to do so.)
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