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To: Dr. Eckleburg; kosta50; P-Marlowe; spirited irish; Alamo-Girl; hosepipe; Quix; MHGinTN; Godzilla; ..
spirited irish said: It is that though He is the Creator of everything and everyone, from the very beginning, many have chosen to reject Him.

To which kosta replied: Tell me, since you are so smart, is that according to his will, or against it?

Dear kosta, why would you conceive of spirited irish's observation as an either/or proposition? The above invites no kind of demonstration of Aristotle's Law of the Excluded Middle. This is real life. Hint: Look for complementarities, not mutually-exclusive propositions.

God could have made a "perfect" creation; but He didn't. He only made a "good" one.

Had He made a perfect creation, there would be no room for human free will in creation.

God knows His beloved; the Shepherd knows His own; and His sheep know His Voice. This pertains to the "ears to hear" controversy.

About which all I mainly can say to kosta is this: You would probably hear better, if you'd remove the pitch you put in your own ears to avoid God's Voice in the first place. Moreover, you'd probably have better eyes to see, too, if you could just get the self-imposed blinders off....

The Shepherd moreover has "many sheepfolds." And the Father most loves the prodigal son who comes back to Him....

Arrrgh. Have been wool-gathering here. Looks like you're presiding over a "mixed company" in these last posts, dear Dr. Eckleburg. If so, the dialogue appears to be in eminently rational hands.

Thank you ever so much for writing, dear sister in Christ!

1,033 posted on 03/12/2010 6:00:25 PM PST by betty boop (Moral law is not rooted in factual laws of nature; they only tell us what happens, not what ought to)
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To: betty boop

Well said.

Thanks for the ping.


1,036 posted on 03/12/2010 6:16:25 PM PST by Quix (BLOKES who got us where we R: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: betty boop
Look for complementarities, not mutually-exclusive propositions.

Precisely so. Thank you so much for your insights, dearest sister in Christ!

1,087 posted on 03/12/2010 9:58:08 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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