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The Rapture Trap: A Catholic View
Beliefnet ^ | Paul Thigpen

Posted on 02/28/2010 6:01:57 AM PST by NYer

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To: RedDogzRule

i think this is correct ... Catholic Mass readings:
Epiphany Sunday
Epistle: Revelation 21:3 | Gospel: Matthew 2:1
“And I heard a loud voice from the throne saying, “Now the dwelling of God is with men, and he will live with them. They will be his people, and God himself will be with them and be their God.”

Palm Sunday
Epistle: Revelation 19:1 | Gospel: Matthew 21:1
“And after these things I heard a great voice of much people in heaven, saying, Alleluia; Salvation, and glory, and honour, and power, unto the Lord our God”

Trinity Sunday
Epistle: Revelations 4:2 | Gospel: John 14:6
“And immediately I was in the Spirit: and, behold, a throne was set in heaven, and one sat on the throne.”


21 posted on 02/28/2010 7:01:47 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: NYer
The persecution that the anti-Lindseyists receive at the hands of the Lindseyists ... is this a forerunner of the persecution of the Antichrist?

Does Lindsey-ism qualify as a “Community-wide Religious Delusion”? What is the proper term for such things?

22 posted on 02/28/2010 7:13:19 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT ("pray without ceasing" - Paul of Tarsus)
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To: NYer

It is the Blessed Hope - and you have a complete lacking in humility in the face of it.
It is understood that the majority of Catholics do not believe in the Rapture - that is not the problem here.
I am a Catholic who does - but that is neither here nor there.
Show some respect and humility. Referring to our brothers in Christ as fundamentalist “prophecy scholars” is insulting and extremely juvenile.
The Church of Laodicea will undergo a severe chastisement - and hopefully, that will wake some people up. In the meantime, the current state of the Church is CESSPOOL.
The Church of Philadelphia is made up of Catholics and Christians who are Humble.
Wake up. You anger our Lord with your willful blindness.
You don’t believe in the Rapture - that is fine. Those who do believe do not deserve your condemnation - you are picking specks out of the eyes of well-meaning people.
Check out the log in your own eye - the Church is not in a good place with God right now.
Our Lord spoke harshly - you are neither hot nor cold - you are vomitted from His mouth. I speak of the current state of the Christian Church - not you in particular.


23 posted on 05/21/2011 8:11:46 PM PDT by Marie Rodriguez (Rapture)
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To: NYer

Everyone is still here, correct?


24 posted on 05/21/2011 8:18:46 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: G Larry
This was written in 1881 by a French priest. A good read.

I am currently reading this book. A much different story than Camping's

BTW, this book was written in 1881; you wouldn't believe how applicable and accurate it is!

The End of the Present World
 
Reading this book was one of the greatest graces of my life!"
— St. Thérèse of Lisieux

In the late nineteenth century, Father Charles Arminjon, a priest from the mountains of southeastern France, assembled his flock in the town cathedral to preach a series of conferences to help them turn their thoughts away from this life’s mean material affairs—and toward the next life’s glorious spiritual reward. His wise and uncompromising words deepened in them the spirit of recollection that all Christians must have: the abiding conviction that heavenly aims, not temporal enthusiasms, must guide everything we think, say, and do.

When Father Arminjon’s conferences were later published in a book, many others were able to reap the same benefit—including fourteen-year-old Thérèse Martin, then on the cusp of entering the Carmelite convent in Lisieux. Reading it, she says, “plunged my soul into a happiness not of this earth.” Young Thérèse, filled with a sense of “what God reserves for those who love him, and seeing that the eternal rewards had no proportion to the light sacrifices of life,” copied out numerous passages and memorized them, “repeating unceasingly the words of love burning in my heart.”

Now the very book that so inspired the Little Flower is available for the first time in English.

Let the pages of The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life fill you with the same burning words of love, with the same ardent desire to know God above all created things, that St. Thérèse gained from them. Let them also enrich your understanding of certain teachings of the Faith that can often seem so mysterious, even frightening:

  • The signs that will precede the world’s end
  • The coming of the Antichrist, and how to recognize him
  • The Judgment and where it may send us: heaven, hell, and purgatory
  • Biblical end-times prophecy: how to read it and not be deceived

    Jesus commands us to be ever-watchful for his return, and ever-mindful that we have no lasting city on earth. The End of the Present World and the Mysteries of the Future Life is an invaluable aid to inculcating in your spirit that heavenly orientation, without which true human happiness cannot be found—in this world or the next.


25 posted on 05/21/2011 8:21:07 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Freep-mail me to get on or off my pro-life and Catholic List:

Add me / Remove me

Please ping me to note-worthy Pro-Life or Catholic threads, or other threads of general interest.


26 posted on 05/21/2011 8:23:21 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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27 posted on 05/21/2011 8:23:21 PM PDT by narses ("Fallacies do not cease to be fallacies because they become fashions." Chesterton)
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To: NYer
Five Myths About the Rapture
On the Rapture: Darby/MacDonald theory of a coming rapture
The Rapture Trap: A Catholic View

28 posted on 05/21/2011 9:07:06 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: NYer

Thanks!


29 posted on 05/22/2011 5:35:20 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Salvation

Thank you!
Just ordered the book.


30 posted on 05/22/2011 8:28:31 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: G Larry

It’s quite deep in some places. Our spiritual book club read it for Lent, but we really neeeded to have two months to read and digest it. I’m still only about a third of the way through it. But it is fascinating.


31 posted on 05/22/2011 8:31:49 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: G Larry

BTW, I’ve read two other books since then. Just got back to this one, though. I want to finish it.


32 posted on 05/22/2011 8:36:22 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

If you take a look at the book I recommended in post #4, it is quite deep also.


33 posted on 05/22/2011 8:37:24 AM PDT by G Larry (I dream of a day when a man is judged by the content of his character)
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To: NYer; wagglebee; Kolokotronis
(Please see the following scripture) As one can see below, "rapture" is Paul's word to describe the events regarding the disposition of both living and deceased Christians at the time of Christ's return in the clouds.

Many might say that their church teaches no such thing, but they MUST have some teaching on it if their bibles contain the books of 1 Thess and 1 Corith.

For Roman Catholics (and they can correct me wherein I am incorrect), Mary is believed to have been "assumed" into heaven. In other words, she went from "this realm" to "that realm" -- which would, in effect, call for them to at least discuss the "similarity" of that with what happens to living Christians at the time of Christ's return.

Just my humble 2 cents worth.

1 Corinthians 15: 51 Listen, I tell you a mystery: We will not all sleep, but we will all be changed-- 52 in a flash, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trumpet. For the trumpet will sound, the dead will be raised imperishable, and we will be changed.53 For the perishable must clothe itself with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality. 54 When the perishable has been clothed with the imperishable, and the mortal with immortality, then the saying that is written will come true: "Death has been swallowed up in victory." 55 "Where, O death, is your victory? Where, O death, is your sting?"

1 Thessalonians: 16 For the Lord himself will come down from heaven, with a loud command, with the voice of the archangel and with the trumpet call of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first. 17 After that, we who are still alive and are left will be caught up (greek: harpazo; latin: "rapturos") together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. And so we will be with the Lord forever. 18 Therefore encourage each other with these words.


34 posted on 05/22/2011 12:35:20 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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To: Marie Rodriguez

Troll much?


35 posted on 05/22/2011 1:16:56 PM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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To: NYer

There’s a very simple explanation for why the Rapture did not happen:

All the liberals were getting together a petition to outlaw Krispy Kreme donuts in Heaven. God said, like hell you are, and just decided to cancel the whole thing!


36 posted on 05/22/2011 3:35:37 PM PDT by baa39
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To: NYer

The Lambs Supper by Dr. Scott Hahn.

http://www.catholiccompany.com/lambs-supper-mass-as-heaven-earth-p1001259/


37 posted on 05/23/2011 12:08:45 PM PDT by jafojeffsurf (Return to the Constitution.)
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To: xzins

Greetings Readers:

The reason why the “Rapture” did not occur is because, there
is no Rapture, but rather, “The Warning” of Our Lady of Garabandal amen. The Warning AKA The Illumination of Conscience or to correct our Conscience. We will see all the good and bad we have done, and all that we have failed to do in our lifetime. Yes, some will die, but not die as know we it be today, but rather, the shock or impact of “The Warning.” Amen...Peace...


38 posted on 05/23/2011 8:12:16 PM PDT by JBReyes777
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To: surroundedbyblue

Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!
I’m pretty sure our Blessed Mother does not appreciate the name calling and the way your name calling has made me feel this morning.


39 posted on 05/24/2011 7:20:26 AM PDT by Marie Rodriguez (Rapture)
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To: Marie Rodriguez

Who’s name calling? I simply asked if you troll much. It is awful suspect, after all, that you register here on FR & in your first post, you chastise a faithful Catholic & attempt to reprimand them on a article that advances the true teachings of the Church. To top it off, you identify yourself as a “Cathpilc”, but you say you disagree with the Church & you do believe in the rapture.

When will people realize that being Catholic is not an ala carte function. You are or you aren’t. You can’t pick & choose which beliefs you agree with. Those are Catholics in name only.


40 posted on 05/24/2011 8:27:03 AM PDT by surroundedbyblue (Live the message of Fatima - pray & do penance!)
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