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To: Dr. Eckleburg
He is telling Roman Catholics to ignore what their own lying eyes reveal to them;

He's saying that the Church is our Mother and that left to our own devices we fall into error.

Strange to hear this coming from a Calvinist. I thought we were utterly corrupt. Now you're telling us that we can figure it all out for ourselves? Most peculiar.

Has the story changed yet again?

what their own conscience tells them;

Much better to listen to the Bride of Christ than our own utterly corrupt conscience, right Doc? Is conscience now the final arbiter of right and wrong, is that what you're saying Doc? If my conscience tells me there's no problem, then that's all that matters? There's no external, objective standard of truth?

Conscience needs to be formed according to certain principles, does it not?

what the Scriptures teach them;

All sorts of baloney masquerades as Scriptural teaching. Scripture apparently "teaches" all sorts of things to all sorts of different people. Don't make me post that graphic of the various offshoots, branches and splinters of the Presbyterian Church. Is that the result of Scriptural "teaching".

and simply go along with the papacy's deflection of the truth.

Ah yes.......same old shtick........"the Catholic Church is lying"

Don't you get tired of posting this tripe?

So tell us Doc, if the "papacy is deflecting the truth", who gets to decide what is and is not "truth"? No, don't say "Scripture". It's your own personal interpretation of Scripture. It's you, right? In the end, it all comes down to you.

Like I said......rebellion, pure and simple.

Pride.

25 posted on 02/26/2010 9:17:16 PM PST by marshmallow ("A country which kills its own children has no future" -Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: marshmallow
So tell us Doc, if the "papacy is deflecting the truth", who gets to decide what is and is not "truth"? No, don't say "Scripture"

lol. Thanks for telling me what to post, but since I'm used to calling black black and white white I think I'll speak for myself.

Scripture.

I realize the Roman Catholic has a problem with this answer. But it's the correct answer so they'll just have to deal with it.

28 posted on 02/26/2010 9:27:17 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: marshmallow; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

Exhorting underlings . . . particularly poorly educated, immature, weak of the flock

to ignore reality in favor of a lie from the hierarchy

is devilish, satanic, Communistic, tyrannical, horrific.

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Thankfully, even most simple farmers with no education are not so stupid as to comply.

Even simple peasants can distinguish and discern the difference between calling white black because a bureaucratic political power mongering ecclesiastical elite order them to

vs

trusting the Living Word of God to encourage to walk to Him on the water.

The former is stupidity and deception from hell.

The latter is

FAITH LIVED OUT.


91 posted on 02/27/2010 8:45:59 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: marshmallow; Amityschild; Brad's Gramma; Cvengr; DvdMom; firebrand; GiovannaNicoletta; Godzilla; ...

NO!

It IS PRIDE AND ARROGANCE TO THE MAX

of the worst Pharisaical sort

to even imagine telling the weak of a flock to

CALL WHITE BLACK just because the hierarchy says so.

ARROGANCE TO THE MAX.

Considering it otherwise is similarly ARROGANCE TO THE MAX.

Satan in the Garden told Even to ignore the REALITY GOD HAD TOLD, EXPLAINED TO HER about the Tree of the knowledge of good and evil—and to trust satan’s reality.

Such a hierarchical exhortation is no different. And just as horrifically destructively devilish, satanic.

How ANY organization calling itself Christian would dare to say and distribute such a saying is mind bogglingly amazing.


92 posted on 02/27/2010 8:49:09 PM PST by Quix ( POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 TRAITORS http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
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To: marshmallow

The church is the bride of Christ. But we are not the bride of the church. We are the church. Or if you insist on Church, we are not the bride of the Church, as Katharina is of Petruchio. We are the bride of Christ. We do not obey other humans as Katharina obeys her husband.


100 posted on 02/28/2010 12:14:04 AM PST by firebrand
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