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To: Poe White Trash
"As for your 5:1 incidence statistic, I assume that it comes from this AP report in the NYT?"

You assume wrong. There is a lot of information available if you just go looking for it.

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0405/p01s01-ussc.html

http://stopbaptistpredators.org/article07/child_sex_abuse_by_protestant_clergy.html

http://www.reformation.com/

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/marchweb-only/3-18-31.0.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/clergy/clergy143.html

http://www.adherents.com/largecom/baptist_SBC_abuse.html

255 posted on 02/28/2010 5:49:52 PM PST by Natural Law
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To: Natural Law

http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/0405/p01s01-ussc.html

http://stopbaptistpredators.org/article07/child_sex_abuse_by_protestant_clergy.html

http://www.reformation.com/

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2002/marchweb-only/3-18-31.0.html

http://www.rickross.com/reference/clergy/clergy143.html

http://www.adherents.com/largecom/baptist_SBC_abuse.html


257 posted on 02/28/2010 6:06:20 PM PST by narses ("lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi")
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To: Natural Law
Let's examine your links one by one:

Sex abuse spans spectrum of churches

Disheartening 2002 article with lots of stats, but nothing that would lead one to exclaim that, to quote you, "sexual abuse by and among Protestant clergy is as much as five times more prevalent than among Catholic clergy."

The 70 incidents a week stat by CMR is for any allegations of abuse, and is thus not comparable to the "credible accusations" that were adduced for the RC Church in the AP article I linked. The article does claim that only 5% (19, 500) of the 350,000 churches in the US are RC; it's frightening how so few churches can generate so many abuse accusations, don't you think?

Child sex abuse by Protestant clergy difficult to document

This 2007 article, once again, does not have any numbers that would support your "five times more prevalent" argument. In fact, the insurance company stats it DOES give are the same as what was in the AP article I linked to from the NYT.

There was this disturbing bit, however:

By contract, Catholic bishops commissioned the Center for Applied Research in the Apostolate at Georgetown University to track and publish an annual report on credible allegations of sexual misconduct among priests and deacons. For 2006, CARA showed 635 new and "credible allegations" were lodged against 394 priests or deacons from Jan. 1 to Dec. 31. That compares to 695 in 2005 and 898 in 2004.

Remember the numbers from the AP article? 260 cases/year for the 165,000 Protestant Churches insured by these 3 companies. Now let's compare that with the 635 (2006), 695 (2005), and 898 (2004) "credible allegations" per year coming from a mere 16,500 RC churches. Pretty horrible, don't you think?

Welcome to a collection of news reports on ministers who have sexually abused children

A sad collection of cases of abuse by Protestant ministers from around the world. Very disturbing, but hardly proof of your "5 to 1" claim.

How the Clergy Sexual Abuse Scandal Affects Evangelical Churches

Why did you even post this link? This 2002 article doesn't support your argument. In fact, it includes gems like this:

"There are absolutely no Protestant equivalents," Anson Shupe, an Indiana University-Purdue University sociologist who researches clergy misconduct and new religious movements, told The Boston Globe. "If I could find some spectacular cases, that would help my career, but I can't. You don't have rapacious serial predators, and the Protestant establishment doesn't tolerate it the way the Catholic establishment has."

C'mon, Natural Law. Did you even bother to read the articles you linked?

Sex Abuse by Clerics - A Crisis of Many Faiths

Once again, this article does not prove your point. For example...

In the last decade, clergy sexual misconduct has been exposed in virtually every faith tradition. National studies have shown no differences in its frequency by denomination, region, theology or institutional structure.

When clergy prey, women pray to be heard

Fort-Worth Star telegram article from 1978. Horrible cases of abuse of adult women by Baptist pastors. Talk by members of the SBC to do something to prevent such abuse. No backing of your outrageous "5 to 1" claim.

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My original assumption has turned out to be right. Not only have you provided NO evidence to back up your "five times more prevalent" claim, you have posted links to documents that not just undermine or contradict your claim but which even present the RC Church in a worse light.

C'mon, Natural Law. What's your source for your "five times more prevalent" criticism of us Protestants. Did your dog eat it?

Put up or shut up. Post the link!

261 posted on 02/28/2010 7:04:48 PM PST by Poe White Trash (Wake up!)
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